Olivia Colman: “I’ve always described myself to my husband as a gay man.” 🙄

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Have you been to The Bluestocking Women's Pub, Carla786?
It's staffed by gerbils - maybe OC did a few shifts there between roles?

I find the same thing. The Looking Glass War is one of my favourites - it's underappreciated because it's about a doomed mission launched by an incompetent agency, but I like it as a dark comedy because I've worked in organisations exactly like that. But I've never been comfortable with the passages about Avery feeling oppressed by his needy wife, because it's painfully obvious Le Carre wrote it when his first marriage was breaking down.

Adam Sisman's follow up volume to his biography makes it very plain that his female characters were mostly based on whoever his mistress of the moment was. A close reader of the books would probably have guessed that anyway.

Charlie in The Little Drummer Girl is the exception for me, but that's probably because he drew heavily on his sister Charlotte Cornwell (an interesting woman in her own right who's not as well known as she should be) and that gives Charlie three dimensions where most of his women don't get beyond two.

'I find it so upsetting and so mystifying that there is such hatred towards any group of people. But clearly, hatred can only come from people that just don't know any of these people, because I don't know how you could hate people that are so kind and lovely.'

Oh my actual God. What is she, 5?

I enjoy Le Carre on audio book where some have essays he wrote far more recently as a post script. He's genuinely interesting.

But I've not come across a decent female character yet. The novels are all massive bromances. Whilst some women fare better than others, they're invariably described as quite pathetic, needy characters and are never the main focus.

That said, I liked the ambiguity of Jed in the novel. Pine found her highly irritating at first, and he didn't know she wasn't fully colluding with Roper. The TV series (which I mostly loved) did the book a disservice by clunkily ensuring viewers knew Jed was a Good Person.

I adored Rev and her in it. Like you, also Broadchurch. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything of hers that I haven’t been quite mesmerised by her.

Another poster also mentioned The Accused. She was also in Tyranossaur. I loved her in the dance scene with Paul Mescal in The Lost Daughter.

I think she is utterly stunning and has such an interesting expressive face and a gorgeous voice. I don’t think she is the same in everything she’s in. I suppose this is me loving her as an actor, but I can’t help but be disappointed by the real life spouting of such nonsense.

It's the old Dire Straits problem. Mark Knopfler used to base a lot of his songs on ordinary people he encountered. When he became rich and famous, he had a lot less material to work with.

Not one that I would start with, definitely not if you're allergic to slow paced stories as there's about 200 pages of setup before you get into the main story.

The Little Drummer Girl is exceptional in having a female lead. The miniseries with Florence Pugh is excellent.

This kinda reminds me of the scene in Father Ted -I hear you're a racist now, Father? Should we all be racist now? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the ol' racism.

Insert non binary - I hear you're a non binary now, Father? Should we all be non binary now? What's the Church's position? I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the ol' non binarism.

PMSL at “feeling sort of non-binary”. Vagueness on top of nonsense = empty meaningless statement in attempt to earn Brownie points with whoever on the cast is part of the alphabet mafia.

Olivia, you’re an established actress in your 50s. Have some self respect. Please.

Olivia, you’re a straight woman, and that’s fine. All that other stuff about “feeling sort of non-binary” etc is just you having a personality.

And yet here we are discussing OC instead of the latest interview with a scientist. Publications that go too lose money, unfortunately. Tbh most of them lose money at the moment.

Jesus Christ. Luvvies, man.

She's a public figure spouting casual homophobia and sexism to promote herself and her new film for her own interests. That's commercial gain.

Promoting this shit has an impact on a lot of women. It's entrenches sexism rather than breaking new ground.

She's a 52 year old woman who is trying to stay relevant to a younger audience whilst the older 40-60 year old female audience remains invisible and secondary.

Yes of course we are allowed to say this isn't cool.

You don't get to tell us to shut up either. Who do you think you are saying we shouldn't judge? It's fair and reasonable comment.

This is a very good point. Im interested in real people and what they have to say.
Not actors or slebs who appear on Jonathan Ross. They've had enough exposure.

I've never got the Olivia Coleman love. It feels like a very English middle class thing. Its like Terry Wogan back in the day told her she was a national treasure. And she believed it. And now she thinks we are all interested in her twitterings.

Tedious is the right word.

Thank you!

Re his Jewishness : his father is Jewish but not his mother (so he's not Jewish according to Jewish law) and he was raised Russian Orthodox. So I suppose maybe he distances himself a bit, mentally, from being Jewish, when reading fascist stuff maybe? Otoh Mussolini and even Hitler did have a few Jewish supporters.

These Politico articles are quite good I think on the ...strange man who is Bronze Age Pervert. He's been around since Trump's first time, I think.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/16/bronze-age-pervert-masculinity-00105427

https://www.politico.eu/article/right-wing-manifesto-that-has-trumpworld-talking-military-rule-bap-bapism-cult-book-bronze-age-mindset/

His Wiki pages have more links :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age_Pervert#Bronze_Age_Mindset

I didn’t get that reference either! Intrigued.

I'm still scratching my head over the "gay Jewish nerds pretending to be pagan fascist bodybuilders" .
(Sorry. I don't want to start a whole derail, but couldn't resist a mention. It's so completely WTAF.)

" And hopefully, try and get into the Pink Pound sales" . Sorry Robbie , yer twink looking days are long over.

Ahhhhh... she is trying to make her PR relatable and exciting aligning herself with something she sees as exotic. What else can she say - I have a husband that loves me very much and a pretty nice family.

Its along the same lines as " I was a cleaner... look at me now" Oscar speech - it makes a much more exciting story than "I had a priviledged upbringing and even went to two top-fee paying schools.... look at me now".

She is like that ridiculous Mirian Margoyles, she spins a good yarn and is entertaining.

And if the American Right has its quota of gay people pretending to be straight, the American Left has a much bigger quota of straight people pretending to be gay.

😂No lies detected.

I find that pretty insulting. Who are you calling an insufferable prat ?
I was extremely close to my great grandmother ( born 1889 ) who wasn’t quite sure but reckoned HER Mum might have been born in Cork . I myself have been to Dublin ( twice ) . Love Guinness . Am deffo Celtic .