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Thankfully this child has been found safe and well now but if you were local to the area and read this appeal would you have been keeping your eyes out for a male or female child?

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WallaceinAnderland · 06/02/2026 15:26

Liverpool Echo
Call 999 if you see this missing schoolgirl
She was last seen wearing her school uniform

Merseyside Police is appealing for the public's help in finding a teenager who vanished on Monday morning. Schoolgirl Emi Glover-Wade, 15, was last seen on Monday (January 2) morning and police say extensive enquiries are ongoing to find her.

Emi, from St Helens, was last seen wearing a school uniform, including a black blazer and grey jumper. She was also wearing a Linkin Park T-shirt, dark trousers and black Converse trainers with rainbow laces, police said.

The force described her as being around 5ft 3in tall, a slim build, with shoulder length hair and wears glasses for reading. Emi is understood to have links to Glasgow and Inverness.

If you see Emi call 999 immediately so police can make sure she’s safe and well.

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Owly11 · 06/02/2026 21:50

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 15:43

I'd be looking for a child who matched that description.

A child or a girl?

AnSolas · 06/02/2026 21:40

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 21:28

Must be because the thread came up in Active. Wasn't aware you had to be part of the clique to post.

Lots of threads come up in active.

There is one on how a school is failing to safeguard a girl and the adults in chatge admit in writing that they cant put lawful safebuarding in place.

So the police doing a safeguarding appeal while choosing to not clearly identify the sex of the child is a safeguarding fail and in wider terms a PR trust issue problem.

CoffeeSparkle · 06/02/2026 21:36

Thatcannotberight · 06/02/2026 20:49

Considering the average height of a 15 yr old girl is 5'4" , I'd make a fairly educated guess that a 6'2" individual is male. Teenage boys have always worn pink, both of mine did/do. It's a colour, not a sex indication.

Interesting you mention height. At 5’3 the missing child would be around 9th centile for 15yo boys.

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 21:28

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/02/2026 21:25

I notice how the "omg you're such huge massive meanies" always find these threads and never the ones detailing women and girls appalling treatment because of this pernicious ideology

odd that

Must be because the thread came up in Active. Wasn't aware you had to be part of the clique to post.

Oneforallandallforone · 06/02/2026 21:27

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 21:16

Why? The clothes were the same. Or should I have been looking for someone pretty or feminine. Because all 15 year old girls are so pretty and anyone not pretty can't possibly be a girl.

The photo quite obviously shows a boy.
The description is for a girl. How could the public help when an incorrect description was issued when the missing teen was a boy.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/02/2026 21:25

I notice how the "omg you're such huge massive meanies" always find these threads and never the ones detailing women and girls appalling treatment because of this pernicious ideology

odd that

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/02/2026 21:23

It's yet another example of how safeguarding children comes a very poor second to the demands of people wishing to impose their personal ideological views on others.
Immensely selfish with children so often being the casualties of this ideology.

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 21:18

And girls don't wear Linkin Park T shirts do they?

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 21:16

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 06/02/2026 21:13

I would have been looking for a child of that description.

Given that the description was factually incorrect, you wouldn't have spotted him, so that was a waste of time then.

Why? The clothes were the same. Or should I have been looking for someone pretty or feminine. Because all 15 year old girls are so pretty and anyone not pretty can't possibly be a girl.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 06/02/2026 21:13

I would have been looking for a child of that description.

Given that the description was factually incorrect, you wouldn't have spotted him, so that was a waste of time then.

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 20:55

Instructions · 06/02/2026 20:52

...I can still tell a man is a man even when they wear a pink oodie.

Everyone can. It’s quite something to imagine nobody can tell whether your son is male or female as soon as he dons his pink hoodie Confused

Instructions · 06/02/2026 20:52

Nanof8 · 06/02/2026 20:41

I would have been looking for a child of that description.

My 15m has several friends that dress where you can't really tell if they are male or female. Including my son, his favourite oodie is a pink one that reaches past his knees. He's 6'2" so quite a sight to see walking down the street.

...I can still tell a man is a man even when they wear a pink oodie.

Instructions · 06/02/2026 20:50

They need to state a missing person is trans if they actually care about them being found. To prioritise their gender beliefs over their actual life is ridiculous.

Thatcannotberight · 06/02/2026 20:49

Nanof8 · 06/02/2026 20:41

I would have been looking for a child of that description.

My 15m has several friends that dress where you can't really tell if they are male or female. Including my son, his favourite oodie is a pink one that reaches past his knees. He's 6'2" so quite a sight to see walking down the street.

Considering the average height of a 15 yr old girl is 5'4" , I'd make a fairly educated guess that a 6'2" individual is male. Teenage boys have always worn pink, both of mine did/do. It's a colour, not a sex indication.

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 20:48

Nanof8 · 06/02/2026 20:41

I would have been looking for a child of that description.

My 15m has several friends that dress where you can't really tell if they are male or female. Including my son, his favourite oodie is a pink one that reaches past his knees. He's 6'2" so quite a sight to see walking down the street.

Does he look like a girl because he’s wearing a pink hoodie?
I’m assuming not.

Nanof8 · 06/02/2026 20:41

I would have been looking for a child of that description.

My 15m has several friends that dress where you can't really tell if they are male or female. Including my son, his favourite oodie is a pink one that reaches past his knees. He's 6'2" so quite a sight to see walking down the street.

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 20:31

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 20:25

The photo wasn't posted on SM so people could debate who looks like a girl or boy though.

The photo was posted to find them.

The point is that it’s already in the public domain, nobody trawled through someone else’s private photo album to access it.

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 20:25

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 20:21

The photo has been all over social media in a bid to locate the child…
Really, save your ire for where it’s warranted, this isn’t it.

The photo wasn't posted on SM so people could debate who looks like a girl or boy though.

The photo was posted to find them.

KilkennyCats · 06/02/2026 20:21

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The photo has been all over social media in a bid to locate the child…
Really, save your ire for where it’s warranted, this isn’t it.

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 20:06

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 06/02/2026 20:03

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 18:40

Why the hell are you posting pictures of a child to prove a point.

Wind your neck in, his picture is all over the place because he'd gone missing.

This stupidity has got to stop.

It was a waste of time putting out an alert for him because the description calling him a girl was misinformation. It's good that he returned home on his own because it's unlikely anyone who had read the alert would have know he was the missing child if they had encountered him.

There such a thing as crying wolf, if there are many more of these alerts that contain false information, then people will switch off to them and they will be rendered useless and that could end up being the difference between life or death for a missing child.

He is not a girl he is a boy, and those of you that can't deal with that need to get some fucking help.

This stupidity has got to stop.

WallaceinAnderland · 06/02/2026 19:55

I know I shouldn't be but I am astounded that the lack of correct description for this child could have meant that they were never found. It's safeguarding 101 surely?

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WhereYouLeftIt · 06/02/2026 18:43

SargeMarge · 06/02/2026 16:43

How is it anti trans to say that a trans girl should be described as a trans girl? That’s what this child is. So why not say that?

I would then be looking for a male bodied child, but would know to address them as she.

I understand a lot of people on mumsnet and real life wouldn’t do that, and don’t believe in trans people etc but most of us just want an accurate description so we know what the hell we’re looking for.

“Missing transgirl Emi, also known as Kieran, wearing school uniform and converse with rainbow laces and has shoulder length hair and glasses.”

Then I would know what I’m looking for, and it isn’t offensive or transphobic or whatever else you want to call it.

Why do so many trans people want to hide from the fact they are trans and the world has eyes and can see if, so when you’re looking for a missing person, you need to give a description that matches what people actually see.

Also, what if the child didn't want to be found? Nothing easier for a transgirl than to 'disguise' themselves as boy. So I'd also say that if the police really wanted this child found, then they should have said transgirl not girl.

EchoedSilence · 06/02/2026 18:40

Why the hell are you posting pictures of a child to prove a point.