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is there a thread for FWS / Prisons?

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weegielass · 03/02/2026 10:21

Its live today on the scottish tribunals website and lasting for three days. Easy to join and good audio quality. I think that's marion on screen in the background. She seemed rather amused at the judge trying to understand the definitions.

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TheBlythe · 03/02/2026 11:35

BettyBooper · 03/02/2026 11:31

From Nick Wallis

'LR your analysis takes as source material Mr Maycock's work which presents a range of views amongst women who have shared accommodation with TIMs/trans women. I think w/o wanting to get into the detail of that survey too much - there are women who say it was okay and some...who say it was really not okay. You say let's look at the facts, but is it relevant to take into account there are different perspectives'

I'm sure the Judge is just play devil's advocate here but... What other prison rules to we disregard because 'some are ok with it? 😵‍💫

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I can’t believe any woman who is able to speak freely would say ‘I am happy to be locked in a cell with violent male murderer should I ever find myself in prison.’

BettyBooper · 03/02/2026 11:31

From Nick Wallis

'LR your analysis takes as source material Mr Maycock's work which presents a range of views amongst women who have shared accommodation with TIMs/trans women. I think w/o wanting to get into the detail of that survey too much - there are women who say it was okay and some...who say it was really not okay. You say let's look at the facts, but is it relevant to take into account there are different perspectives'

I'm sure the Judge is just play devil's advocate here but... What other prison rules to we disregard because 'some are ok with it? 😵‍💫

OhBuggerandArse · 03/02/2026 11:30

Judge is very engaged, asking lots of challenging questions. AO'N handling it well to my ears, but who knows?

ickky · 03/02/2026 11:29

Although he should not keep talking over the Judge.

ickky · 03/02/2026 11:23

He is fantastic. 😍

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weegielass · 03/02/2026 11:14

good to know, there's hope then.

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OhBuggerandArse · 03/02/2026 11:04

ickky · 03/02/2026 11:01

I like this Barrister, he is very sure of himself (in a good way).

Advocate, given that we're in Scotland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidan_O'Neill

Archives of his previous work for For Women Scotland here: https://forwomen.scot/tag/aidan-oneill/

Aidan O'Neill - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidan_O'Neill

ickky · 03/02/2026 11:01

I like this Barrister, he is very sure of himself (in a good way).

BettyBooper · 03/02/2026 10:59

DameProfessorIDareSay · 03/02/2026 10:38

Livestream link is here:

https://forwomen.scot/02/02/2026/fws-v-scottish-ministers-iii-the-hearing/

Thanks!

Do you have a name of meeting?

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weegielass · 03/02/2026 10:56

he's very passionate in his speaking. not convinced judge 'gets it' yet though but early doors.

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SwirlyGates · 03/02/2026 10:53

BettyBooper · 03/02/2026 10:48

Thanks for the reminder!

Just caught up on TT

AO: So - must have women-only prison, women-only means no men, SM say it means some men. That's it really. I could sit down now really.
J: But you wanted 7 hours ...
AO: Well yes, thought I'd better be thorough.

😂

Oh my, I thought you were writing a parody, but no! 😂

BettyBooper · 03/02/2026 10:48

Thanks for the reminder!

Just caught up on TT

AO: So - must have women-only prison, women-only means no men, SM say it means some men. That's it really. I could sit down now really.
J: But you wanted 7 hours ...
AO: Well yes, thought I'd better be thorough.

😂