Reasons for not moving right like young men

You are historically illiterate, please try reading some history about the political left. No hierarchy my ass.

And if you think that hierarchies always put white people at the top, you also have a massively narrow view of reality.

Historically, it's the left. Does that mean there aren't isolated instances of bad behaviour? No. But on balance the centre & centre left have a proven historical record because people that gravitate to the left generally believe in equality while those who gravitate to right believe in hierarchy. And that hierarchy is always the same: wealthy, white & male. They will try & pretend the hierarchy is about merit but its always the same demographic who happens to top it.

That they suddenly changed is preposterous.

Please tell me again how Neil Gaiman is the supreme gentleman, until a court formally finds him otherwise.

Again, your strictures on how we can only believe allegations which have been proven in court seems to only apply to members of your political tribe.

I do not believe that political tribe has a monopoly on virtue. I'm too familiar with it.

Strawman. It's perfectly reasonable to be concerned about immigration generally particularly in terms of sustainability & vetting hence its popularity broadly from right to centre left. But just like most people not being sexist or racist doesn't mean they don't unwittingly enable parties & their policies to implement them.

Allegations unproven remain allegations not fact. Are you seriously suggesting society no longer requires evidence & due process to determine guilt? Or does this only apply when convenient?

You don't seem to understand how civilised society remains civilised.

Again I note that @Gretel346 makes broad statements about everyone about people outside the left wing tribe, while nitpicking over women in the left wing activist space who have been raped.

You're talking here about people I know, and you're coming very close to open victim blaming. Particularly when it comes to vulnerable young women who were told by their own organisation not to go to the police, and when said organisation continues to receive financial support from the labour movement.

I note your lack of concern for young women in the SWP whose complaints of rape were dismissed on the basis that the leading member they complained against was leading campaigns against "the far right".

Some prominent members even said the young women making complaints of rape were state assets trying to frame the leader.

This might not mean much in the grand scheme of things - the SWP is a rather small group these days - except that it runs campaigns against "the right" which are funded by the trade unions, which have Labour MPs appearing on their platforms, and which are endorsed by dozens of gormless left wing celebrities.

Now tell me again that being on the left means you're on the side of women.

Data?
Conservatives are anti rape? Now I have a bridge to sell you.

Actually, it's up to you to absolutely spell things out since you're effectively misrepresenting the party and it's intentions.
What is Farage going to do when he stops all the migrants coming here and is left only with the women already here who on average don't want more than one baby, if that, and won't be tied to the kitchen sink?
Maybe, just maybe, a country that starts growing its economy again, rewires the state to get things done, reduces it's energy costs, builds builds builds affordable housing, gets it's lost generation of Zoomers Millennials on mental health diagnostic oblivion, can create the circumstances where Brits will have way more, and affordable options, to start families.
Or maybe you're right, Andy Tate will be Minister For Women and we'll have a campaign to relive the 1950s.

isolated instances of bad behaviour

Allow me to tell you about Gerry Healy.

Nor was Healy particularly isolated. If you think that rapey behaviour among left wing activists is extremely rare, I have a bridge to sell you.

And, in all the cases I've been aware of, left wing women have lined up to defend the miscreants.

This is your brain on political tribalism.

And pray-tell how does Reform plan to make up the short fall given their anti immigration policies?

Women benefit more obviously from the state and public services than men do, even if most men also benefit from them.

More men than women are self employed I believe, so improvements in workers rights benefit women more than men, as women are more likely to be employees. Anecdotally, I also find amongst TU members that men often prioritise pay rises and maybe extra annual leave; whereas women are more likely to prioritise more flexible working rights, more ability to WFH etc, possibly fringe benefits like dental if it also covers their children.

Women still do most of the childcare in this country, so they see the benefit first hand of childrens centres, NHS services for children, flexible working rights, childcare provision that allows them to keep their careers, schools etc. Men also benefit from these things, and will see them if in a relationship, but it probably doesn't hit them in quite the same way.

When you throw relatively high rates of divorce/family breakdown into the mix, men usually see even less of this than they do in married couples. Also, a woman with children can usually access more welfare benefits, social housing etc. Whereas the ex-husband non-resident parent may end up in a bedsit or HMO, often unable to claim anything should they become sick etc.

Older women without children at home often earn less and have smaller pensions thanks to years spent undertaking childcare, particularly if their relationship broke down and they were the resident parent. So they will be more reliant on the NHS and the state pension in old age.

All this is before you get to the 'red pill' and incel cultures and their influence on men.

Historically, it's the left. Does that mean there aren't isolated instances of bad behaviour? No. But on balance the centre & centre left have a proven historical record because people that gravitate to the left generally believe in equality while those who gravitate to right believe in hierarchy. And that hierarchy is always the same: wealthy, white & male. They will try & pretend the hierarchy is about merit but its always the same demographic who happens to top it.

That they suddenly changed is preposterous.

"Right wing parties", you're including the Conservative Party, yes? They've "notoriously been anti women" and have "blamed 'degradation' on feminism".
As a Tory supporter over the years, I've heard some good class war arguments (and now competence ones) against them, but not this colorful list of rants.

The evidence is in history & that there's no plan (that they will tell you about) to make up the short fall in birth replacement. Right wing parties have notoriously been anti women rights & right wingers broadly blame all of societies 'degradation' on feminism. They directly tie the need for immigration to feminism. That somehow they have changed their spots is ludicrous. This is who they are.

If you would like to hear about Martin James Smith, and the many left wing women who covered for him, I have a long and interesting story to tell you.

If your view is that only left wing politics can serve women, you may not be in the market for that.

The evidence is in history & that there's no plan (that they will tell you about) to make up the short fall in birth replacement. Right wing parties have notoriously been anti women rights & right wingers broadly blame all of societies 'degradation' on feminism. They directly tie the need for immigration to feminism. That somehow they have changed their spots is ludicrous. This is who they are.

My point is this scare that Reform leads to stripping women, blacks and gays of their rights. There's no evidence at all that's on the agenda, none.
You can certainly be aware that abortion laws might change as Farage has mentioned this area, the involvement of Kruger and Orr, likely a close relationship with a possible President Vance.
Tbh, the only uncompromising language is over illegal migrants, either those arriving every day at Dover on boats, in lorries, overstaying at the end of scam study visas, and those illegals embedded in society.
These are people who have no right to be here, finally there is an option for UK voters who consider this a massive problem.
But even if you're repelled by Farage views on migration, nothing in his views here extrapolate to this scare on women, blacks, gays.
As to how he achieves this etc, yes, plenty of scope to debate.

Well this is where it all gets a bit theoretical and it's helpful to think about specifics:
Women of colour are more likely to have complications and suffer fatalities in childbirth. Thats a real thing. People who try and understand and address this could easily be labeled ' woke lefties' because of the conversations they need to have and the resources they need to pull in. No doubt Reform would find targeting black women's healthcare offensive. So which party is most likely to make that difference?
Modern constraints on women are a little more mundane than ' tying them to their husbands'
In fact it's caring responsibilities, cross generational child care - working two jobs as a norm to support a family. Deteriorating health services and the education struggle especially SEND. Adult social care being depleated.
The emphasis on trans issues- I'd see that as a political distraction to be honest, albeit trans people need to be treated properly, because much as the government can only change so much at a time, there's no real plan for any of these other things from the right.
If we got reform or some sort of reform conservative coalition, you can bet that they'd whip out care packages like crazy and shut down send education and public services left right and centre. False economy of course. The problems just get more expensive if you do not meet need. In terms of criminal justice We would end up.with even less women being believed because it costs, and the death penalty as a ' solution'.
The right is a threat but it's not just to women and a bit more than being tied to the kitchen sink.

Did you miss the "hugely popular among Reform supporters" bit.

I really think that there is an issue with many people on the left simply accepting as fundamental the idea that anyone the have been told is right wing or whatever is therefore hating anyone who isn't a white British born person. And somehow are unable to comprehend what their real beefs are at all.

The "new right" are vocal online beyond their actual significance. Homeland Party, Advance UK, Tommy Robinson are extremely noisy and frothy but remain totally fringe.
There's absolutely zero chance these chumps would amount to anything.
And Farage is effectively a civic nationalist that is channeling the majority centre right energy in this country.
The Woke Right/very online right are just static.
GLP? You are joking mentioning them as any reliable reference?

The birth rate in the UK stands at 1.4 & needs to be 2.2 to maintain replacement without immigrants. It doesn't take many brain cells to work out what this means for women.
really? In your head, maybe.