Reasons for not moving right like young men

Women benefit more obviously from the state and public services than men do, even if most men also benefit from them.

More men than women are self employed I believe, so improvements in workers rights benefit women more than men, as women are more likely to be employees. Anecdotally, I also find amongst TU members that men often prioritise pay rises and maybe extra annual leave; whereas women are more likely to prioritise more flexible working rights, more ability to WFH etc, possibly fringe benefits like dental if it also covers their children.

Women still do most of the childcare in this country, so they see the benefit first hand of childrens centres, NHS services for children, flexible working rights, childcare provision that allows them to keep their careers, schools etc. Men also benefit from these things, and will see them if in a relationship, but it probably doesn't hit them in quite the same way.

When you throw relatively high rates of divorce/family breakdown into the mix, men usually see even less of this than they do in married couples. Also, a woman with children can usually access more welfare benefits, social housing etc. Whereas the ex-husband non-resident parent may end up in a bedsit or HMO, often unable to claim anything should they become sick etc.

Older women without children at home often earn less and have smaller pensions thanks to years spent undertaking childcare, particularly if their relationship broke down and they were the resident parent. So they will be more reliant on the NHS and the state pension in old age.

All this is before you get to the 'red pill' and incel cultures and their influence on men.

We're all subjects of policy, though, whether we be male or female. You cannot live in a society and not be. The question is more what policies can best support people's various interests and how you can balance that with accommodataing the rights of different indidviduals and groups. There will never be a perfect solution, though.

Look at the left also not promoting their best. Are we really saying that Kate Forbes or Ash Regan are inferior in any way to Humza Yousaf and John Swinney?
Why was Sturgeon considered so highly? Because she had a laser focus on language as applied to IndyRef. That "attribute" became a massive negative first in her mismanagement of COVID lockdowns, and then her pitching in with TRA.
Do left leaning women in here really want Rayner as PM, with her radical TWAW views and author of the (un)Employment Bill that will swell the dole queues?

Well, I guess we could have had Penny Mordaunt as leader with Maria Miller as her Deputy, and Self ID would have been law for over 7 years now.

How about Phillipson then, OP?
Shall we start with an mp who is in power now, detailed with helping women, yet ignores them?
Or do still you prefer to cherry pick over the past?
There was a wonderful set of memes , of Left Wing MPs and what they had to say about Women's Rights. Perhaps someone could do us rhe favour of posting them.

KB needs a bit more stature and to engage with young women at some point, but she has lots of potential to incarnate a strong image of female leadership imho.

What exactly is wrong for women in the Tory Party today? This castigating of the right is as preposterous as the old mantra that the working class, non whites and gays don't belong on the right.

With many prominent women on the Left ( maybe with the exception of Hillary Clinton in the U.S) and women such as Barbara Castle and Shirley Williams in the U.K - you get the impression they are partly in position just because they are female, whereas you don't get that impression so much with women who are prominent on the right. The rights seems to care more about whether the candidate shares and articulates the same vision and can hold her own than in their sex.

I mean, look at Kemi Badenoch or Condoleeza Rice, for example compared to Angela Raynor or Kamala Harris. They both are far more impressive, steely and able. Maybe because they are women who display more obvious' masculine' characteristics and have leadership qualities.

Didn't she also typify that 'be kind', wet type of politics, which some might see as overly feminised?

I suppose that must depends on how you frame women's rights. Is 'women's rights' purely about the concept of 'equality' as it now tends to be understood - whereby women work alongside men in paid employment and recieve the same pay, and whereby men and women both share the exact same responsibilities, as they arise, in terms of the home and family etc?

Or can 'women's rights' also be framed within an acceptance of some of the innate, general, differences between the sexes such as a recognition that it is women who do the bulk of the childcare etc ( for obvious reasons, certainly when the child very small) and often want to be at home in the early years of a. child's life? If you are more accepting of the strengths families then you could maybe implement policies which support the family and the women within it.

You might also be more accepting of the right of female people to privacy and dignity in public spaces in which they may be undressed or engaged with biological function etc The left tends to want to flatten out or even deny differences between groups of people - in pursuit of 'equality'

But you'd think that prominent women on the right would be more impressive if the right were such a great place to be
actually, I find Badenoch a lot more impressive than any of the women on the left - especially Phillipson, who has cynically kicked the findings of the SC into the long grass.
The rest of it? No, I can't be bothered.

I think the op must be the most inarticulate i've read on mn.
And the UK is not the USA, so no, i'm not concerned about what is happening over there.
You can blame Reform supporters however you like, but you can't get away from the simple fact that it is the Left who are shafting women's rights.

Yes nontraditional families will probably be more likely to vote left, but I have a feeling that good schools, safe neighborhoods will still be important for this cohort. I’m not aware of any statistics on this however.

Oh dear are the comments on 'your' thread not to your liking, have you stropped off to some else's thread instead. 😂

I will make a quick comment about Jacinda Ardern as I lived in NZ through the pandemic, and because the attitude to her in NZ isn't very well understood elsewhere. She faced misogyny, it's true, but her charisma disguises that she didn't lead a very effective government. There's no reason to believe the NZ government would have done a worse job regarding the pandemic had Bill English (National Party) been PM instead. I miss Helen Clark, the PM from 1999 to 2008. Grumpy, uncharismatic and effective and and a lot of people would have her back in a heartbeat I suspect.

Men are generally wealthier than women which makes them less likely to vote for high tax/ high spend governments.

Left wing and liberal are often mixed up but they are not the same thing.

All people can be equally obnoxious regardless of their political leanings.

I have no idea why the left has a kinder reputation as left wing regimes are not kind at all.