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Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 3

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fromorbit · 23/01/2026 07:54

Welcome to Part 3 of Mumsnet charting the drama inside Your Party. We have followed YP from the start when it looked liked it might be a major player to its ongoing internal row which has left it struggling.

We have the best and funniest commentary on British hard left wing politics, looking not just at YP itself, but wider issues plaguing the left. Dominated by the problem which weirdly didn't worry Marx, the Chartists, Anarchists, Trade Unionists, even Communist regimes, or much of the long history of left wing feminists, but suddenly in the last ten or so years has become huge. Is Human biology a thing ? Are men in dresses the most oppressed people on the planet even if they are billionaires?

Currently we are looking at Your Party internal elections which have been dominated by the split between the Corbyn and Sultana factions who have different visions of how the party should look. Summarised here:

Your Party? Whose elections?
https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

Sultana's Grassroots Left slate not only added Corbyn without permission but others. It seems they are being denounced for undemocratic manoeuvres.

Fractures amongst Sultana's shadow caucus have opened up
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/the-slate-that-wasnt

As always the Men in Dresses have outsize importance. The Trans Liberation group are backing the Sultanate Grassroots Left faction, but things as always are messy.

The set up of the YP voting also means there are male and female posts in each region. The non binary types are claiming this is unfair what about them:
Is this trolling? LGBTQIA+ group demand "non-binary" CEC spots
A Your Party clique is infuriated that non-men/women isn't a category for the elections.
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/is-this-trolling-lgbtqia-group-demand

There is plenty more crazy to come.

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5394557-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 2
All about the conference and run up which really saw YP faction fighting intensify. Highlights included a Scottish "trans" male sex pest berating the conference.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5440730-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread-part-2?page=1

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Your Party? Whose elections?

Edited 21.1.26 with updates. Ruth Cashman, a regular writer for Solidarity, was initially banned from standing for the Central Executive Committee of Your Party on grounds that YP rules exclude members of “other national political parties”. She appeale...

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

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Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 17:21

Newham independents (backed by Your Party) and your party "disappointed" with greens for splitting the vote and letting Labour in for Newham Mayor

https://nitter.net/meganekenyon/status/2052764752393191574#m

A source told me: "It's bitterly disappointing that the greens split the vote and let Labour through." Cited Your Party standing aside in Gorton and Denton. "Would hope this could be reciprocated elsewhere so we could unite to defeat Labour".

Just can't find the comrades these days

Shortshriftandlethal · 08/05/2026 10:24

Womenz · 08/05/2026 09:39

How do people think the council election results will shape things over the next couple of years?

I suppose that will depend on what the voters are expecting from their councillors and their council. If councils don't deliver positive observable results then the votes lent to the newly resurgent parties would quickly evaporate - in my view.

1984Now · 08/05/2026 09:46

Lalgarh · 06/05/2026 08:46

Oh some last minute entryism.

The Decca Aitkenhead interview with ZP in the times mentioned “Not once in our conversation is there any mention of class struggle, capital versus labour — or, for that matter, even wages.
It dawns on me that Polanski is the first British party leader to have been forged entirely through the prism of identity politics"

nitter.net/SoniaRGallego/status/2051249026872353260#m

He was on the radio now quoting An Economist I didn't quite catch and said he's still learning. Prepare to be bored into coma little Zack

I can't stand the way he just parrots quotes from writers.
Months ago I read someone "eminent" say that countries don't have rights to exist, and hey presto, what did I hear come out of the clown's mouth this week?
You guessed it.

Womenz · 08/05/2026 09:39

How do people think the council election results will shape things over the next couple of years?

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 08:34

Although Stats For Lefties is somehow hoping Aspire keeping Tower Hamlets will be a kick in the teeth to Reform

https://nitter.net/LeftieStats/status/2052550435190276579#m

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 00:23

Tower Hamlets (Aspire, the YP backers) are up for election this time. This could have been a case where the greens could actively chomp into YPs base

Lalgarh · 06/05/2026 08:46

Oh some last minute entryism.

The Decca Aitkenhead interview with ZP in the times mentioned “Not once in our conversation is there any mention of class struggle, capital versus labour — or, for that matter, even wages.
It dawns on me that Polanski is the first British party leader to have been forged entirely through the prism of identity politics"

nitter.net/SoniaRGallego/status/2051249026872353260#m

He was on the radio now quoting An Economist I didn't quite catch and said he's still learning. Prepare to be bored into coma little Zack

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1984Now · 01/05/2026 14:20

SionnachRuadh · 01/05/2026 14:16

Stats for Lefties will get quite a shocker if he ever meets East End Muslims.

Mehmood Mirza has been very good at bigging himself up as the socialist alternative to Labour, and posing for photos with Corbzy, but he's not given up his laser like focus on parking charges and LTNs.

...and the grooming gangs as the nasty little open secret none of them will talk about...

SionnachRuadh · 01/05/2026 14:16

Stats for Lefties will get quite a shocker if he ever meets East End Muslims.

Mehmood Mirza has been very good at bigging himself up as the socialist alternative to Labour, and posing for photos with Corbzy, but he's not given up his laser like focus on parking charges and LTNs.

Lalgarh · 01/05/2026 13:56

Corbyn backed Newham independents attacking the greens as pro DrUgkz. Stats for lefties outraged

https://nitter.net/LeftieStats/status/2049926764332474786#m

(They've now deleted)

Lalgarh · 01/05/2026 08:49

Who knew Claudia Webbe was an intellectual pontificating on the future of socialism. It's just the capitalist fash media that knows her as the fckn deranged scorned vitriol plotter. I totally didn't read the factoids in that and think "that's chat GPT"

1984Now · 01/05/2026 08:20

fromorbit · 01/05/2026 05:49

YP booting out the SWP is justified by Webb as better socialism and gets into opposing vanguardism:

Your Party: what kind of socialist party does the British working class actually need in 2026?
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/your-party-what-kind-socialist-party-does-british-working-class-actually-need-2026

Counter argument:

Your Party is weaker without the revolutionary left
https://www.counterfire.org/article/your-party-is-weaker-without-the-revolutionary-left/

Practical experience would indicate that not having a bunch of perianal losers involved would help.

I don't know what's worse about the revolutionary left...that they'll freeze you to death, or bore you to death?

fromorbit · 01/05/2026 05:49

YP booting out the SWP is justified by Webb as better socialism and gets into opposing vanguardism:

Your Party: what kind of socialist party does the British working class actually need in 2026?
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/your-party-what-kind-socialist-party-does-british-working-class-actually-need-2026

Counter argument:

Your Party is weaker without the revolutionary left
https://www.counterfire.org/article/your-party-is-weaker-without-the-revolutionary-left/

Practical experience would indicate that not having a bunch of perianal losers involved would help.

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SionnachRuadh · 30/04/2026 15:48

I assume Zarah is talking about a different intifada that goes to another school.

1984Now · 30/04/2026 15:38

Zara calling Starmer a liar is the perfect meme of a stuck clock telling the time correctly at least once a day.

Lalgarh · 30/04/2026 14:21

Sultana has also come to the attention of JK Rowling

https://nitter.net/jk_rowling/status/2049590762325630988#m

moto748e · 20/04/2026 22:48

Delicious! 😀

SionnachRuadh · 20/04/2026 22:38

From Maddie Grant's Spectator sketch:

Some MPs were actually prepared to name the large, grey, trunk-bearing mammal in the room and point out that the Prime Minister was almost certainly lying. To do so is considered un-parliamentary behaviour and so risks a chucking-out even if it is akin to looking up and commenting that what’s above you is a colour somewhere between Cyan and Magenta. Lee Anderson said the PM ‘couldn’t lie straight in bed’, which he was made to retract before being turfed out of the Commons.

Braver was Zarah Sultana, who repeated the claim that the PM was lying, to an incandescent Hoyle, who not only chucked her out but suspended her from the House, meaning five days’ banishment without pay. Quite the punishment for stating the obvious.

One wonders what she and Lee chatted about in the sin bin but then Starmer’s shamelessness has made some odd bedfellows. Corbynistas nodded along to Mrs Badenoch, the SNP cheered DUP questions, the Tories were in total thrall to Diane Abbott. Maybe the real friends were the ones we made along the way? It was like an unlikely Disney buddy film, all brought together by contempt for one man’s naked shamelessness. Sweet, eh?

SionnachRuadh · 20/04/2026 21:59

That corner of the chamber, with Corbyn and the Gaza MPs in the back row and the Reform MPs sitting in front of them, seems to be the House's naughty step. There's a lot of banter goes on. Ideology aside, they seem to get on reasonably well on a personal basis.

I've seen Rosie Duffield sitting there. Also Tim Farron, who seems to find it much more fun than hanging out with the Lib Dems.

I rarely see Sultana in the chamber. When she speaks, she often seems to come in late in a debate when there aren't many MPs around. I would feel sorry for her, but working with others is a key skill in politics and she doesn't have it.

Lalgarh · 20/04/2026 21:28

Was watching bits of the Starmer statement this afternoon. Lee Anderson had already been kicked out for calling Starmer a liar. By this evening Sultana had managed it too but seems to be getting the headlines and plaudits from Reform types on Twitter.

I did see she wasn't sitting close to Corbyn who'd tried to ask forensic questions from the backbenches

Lalgarh · 17/04/2026 00:41

Well this is a curve ball.

Remember the Together Alliance march on a few weekends back. Trade unions and left parties marching against the threat of populism and the far right. Zack Polanski twerking on stage. Vows to shun the like of Farage.

It turns out Unite (who cut their Labour party subs by 40%) have been holding secret talks with Reform about ending the Birmingham bin strikes. You know, the pivotal cause for Your Party that got Sultana on the picket line pledging solidarity

https://nitter.net/zarahsultana/status/2017320088454533552#m
https://nitter.net/patrickkmaguire/status/2044889712041635961#m

Times (paywalled) https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/unite-labour-reform-farage-birmingham-bin-strike-ftsk2707m

As noted in one of the replies, the whole impetus of the dispute is an equal pay claim that, if the union won and kept the specific role in place, would leave the council in breach potentially of the equality act. Reform have said they want to scrap the act, if I remember

https://nitter.net/DanielDieppe/status/2044911047476134359#m

Unite in secret talks with Reform over Birmingham bin strikes

Officials at Labour’s biggest union donor meet Nigel Farage’s team in anticipation of his party taking control of the West Midlands council

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/unite-labour-reform-farage-birmingham-bin-strike-ftsk2707m

SionnachRuadh · 14/04/2026 17:45

After all the endless faff about creating the most complex party constitution imaginable (Ben Habib doesn't know he's born), I suppose it was inevitable that someone would sue to force Corbzy to rerun the election under a different system that you need to be a mathematician to understand.

And then they wonder why they can't get normies to vote for them.

Lalgarh · 14/04/2026 16:34

A disgruntled candidate for Your Party CEC is now threatening to sue them for breach on contract (? Is that even possible? Iirc party of them are a private company) and has contacted the Good Law Project to begin proceedings.

https://nitter.net/Wrevolution/status/2043947231150027163#m.

So, a likely win for Corbzy after all😝

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