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Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 3

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fromorbit · 23/01/2026 07:54

Welcome to Part 3 of Mumsnet charting the drama inside Your Party. We have followed YP from the start when it looked liked it might be a major player to its ongoing internal row which has left it struggling.

We have the best and funniest commentary on British hard left wing politics, looking not just at YP itself, but wider issues plaguing the left. Dominated by the problem which weirdly didn't worry Marx, the Chartists, Anarchists, Trade Unionists, even Communist regimes, or much of the long history of left wing feminists, but suddenly in the last ten or so years has become huge. Is Human biology a thing ? Are men in dresses the most oppressed people on the planet even if they are billionaires?

Currently we are looking at Your Party internal elections which have been dominated by the split between the Corbyn and Sultana factions who have different visions of how the party should look. Summarised here:

Your Party? Whose elections?
https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

Sultana's Grassroots Left slate not only added Corbyn without permission but others. It seems they are being denounced for undemocratic manoeuvres.

Fractures amongst Sultana's shadow caucus have opened up
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/the-slate-that-wasnt

As always the Men in Dresses have outsize importance. The Trans Liberation group are backing the Sultanate Grassroots Left faction, but things as always are messy.

The set up of the YP voting also means there are male and female posts in each region. The non binary types are claiming this is unfair what about them:
Is this trolling? LGBTQIA+ group demand "non-binary" CEC spots
A Your Party clique is infuriated that non-men/women isn't a category for the elections.
https://skidrowradio.substack.com/p/is-this-trolling-lgbtqia-group-demand

There is plenty more crazy to come.

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5394557-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread

Your Corbyn/Sultana Party - Discussion thread - Part 2
All about the conference and run up which really saw YP faction fighting intensify. Highlights included a Scottish "trans" male sex pest berating the conference.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5440730-your-corbynsultana-party-discussion-thread-part-2?page=1

people's party

Your Party? Whose elections?

Edited 21.1.26 with updates. Ruth Cashman, a regular writer for Solidarity, was initially banned from standing for the Central Executive Committee of Your Party on grounds that YP rules exclude members of “other national political parties”. She appeale...

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2026-01-21/your-party-whose-elections?language_content_entity=en

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Lalgarh · 24/07/2026 08:31

There is already a schism in pro Pal activism. I posted in an earlier thread, but those that consider themselves "authentic" (ie Muslim/ Arab) supporters of Palestine are convinced that the Palestine Solidarity committee (fronted by keffiyeh wearing Christian Palestinian trot Ben Jamal) are a front for mossad and urge say young Muslims to affiliate to more Islamic based organisations who don't "compromise with Zionist structures", whatever that is.

The poster girl for the UK Intifada the Palestinian surgeon Rahmeh Aladwan was championed by Zack Polanski and assorted lefties in Your Party even after she started up with blatant anti Jewish hate speech including linking Polanski to usury.

She's not exactly hoping Palestine will be a socialist furry inclusive utopia Zarah Sultana was advocating for

https://nitter.net/doctor_rahmeh/status/1988558714190594339#m

fromorbit · 24/07/2026 07:38

Hilarious. Booted out of YP now Pride. What next for SWP banned from Palestine demo? That will really sting.

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Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 22:57

You can sense the mock concern from the comrade. "We're confused as to why they think that..".

= "We're sorry YOU feel that way"

They must be itching to say "after. all. We've. Done. For. You.."

moto748e · 23/07/2026 22:46

It's pretty funny.

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 22:27

Looks like Sheffield contingent told them to fuck off too

https://nitter.net/charles_hart/status/2079522097156563303#m

As did Manchester assembly last year in this posters follow up tweet

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/07/2026 21:25

AimsAndObjectives · 23/07/2026 19:17

Finally something TRAs and GC women can agree on? SWP are shit

I might post it on that relevant thread.

Lalgarh · 23/07/2026 19:18

Good on them.

SWP god tier gaslighting:

“We have never been disruptive, disrespectful or dehumanising to the organisers and we’re confused as to why they’ve said that. Our members, including trans+ people, go on the march each year to stand united the avalanche of transphobia.

“We’re proud that when too many organisations are silent, or duck the question, the SWP is 100% for trans+ rights and is part of the movement fighting for them in our workplaces and communities.

“At a time when the far right are a danger to trans+ people, and when the British state is attacking our right to exist, we hope this year’s trans+ pride is one of the biggest yet.”

Tldr: trans pride are wrong and we're going anyway

AimsAndObjectives · 23/07/2026 19:17

Finally something TRAs and GC women can agree on? SWP are shit

Lalgarh · 19/07/2026 10:58

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/07/2026 01:33

Very interesting. I lolled at some of the joke entries, did the petition get advertised somewhere very edgelordy?

Don't think so. Well, twitter and Bluesky

PrettyDamnCosmic · 19/07/2026 08:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/07/2026 01:33

Very interesting. I lolled at some of the joke entries, did the petition get advertised somewhere very edgelordy?

Adolf Hitler signed five times.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/07/2026 01:33

Very interesting. I lolled at some of the joke entries, did the petition get advertised somewhere very edgelordy?

Lalgarh · 18/07/2026 07:19

If you remember the September of the open letters and factionalism last year, one of the signees of this open letter (calling on mass socialist democracy in Your Party) matches the name and town of the man currently in custody for the murder of Ann Widdecombe

https://openletter.earth/sign-the-open-letter-baf85a5c?limit=0

The Mail have a feature on him but this is gleaned from elsewhere.

NB it's not the multiple joke entries from Adolf Hitler, Napoleon or Jeffrey Epstein

Pleasantsort2 · 15/07/2026 22:49

🤣Didn't realise they were still going ( sort of!).🍿

SionnachRuadh · 15/07/2026 22:41

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/07/2026 16:11

To be frank looking at the images of those meetings one is reminded of an church congregation. Whenver people join forces in such a way or sign up to a particular political creed then that is what you end up with.

Mark Steel had a good joke (he has his moments) that when he joined the SWP at 18, he was 5 years younger than the average member, and when he left at 50, he was still 5 years younger than the average member.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/07/2026 16:11

Lalgarh · 15/07/2026 14:48

Trotskyite grave dancing is a long time tradition.

That comment on the age range of the Festival of Marxism gig reminds me of a joke about Stalin going into an orthodox church. He gloats at the patriarch that "look at your congregation. They're all old and dying. You're finished! Your religion is dead! None of them will be here in 20 years!"

"Ah" says the patriarch. "But then there will be new old people".

Is hoping for Full Marxism now a pastime for the elderly alongside going on saga cruises and complaining about the typeface in Private Eye

To be frank looking at the images of those meetings one is reminded of an church congregation. Whenver people join forces in such a way or sign up to a particular political creed then that is what you end up with.

Lalgarh · 15/07/2026 14:48

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/07/2026 10:08

"Katie Coles, who chaired the opening rally, declared, “Nothing makes me feel more hopeful, more optimistic than seeing Starmer in a fit of tears outside Downing Street . Good riddance!”

Nice people, so kind!

Trotskyite grave dancing is a long time tradition.

That comment on the age range of the Festival of Marxism gig reminds me of a joke about Stalin going into an orthodox church. He gloats at the patriarch that "look at your congregation. They're all old and dying. You're finished! Your religion is dead! None of them will be here in 20 years!"

"Ah" says the patriarch. "But then there will be new old people".

Is hoping for Full Marxism now a pastime for the elderly alongside going on saga cruises and complaining about the typeface in Private Eye

SionnachRuadh · 15/07/2026 11:27

Lewis Nielsen, to be fair to him, does not have a fake Scouse accent. How he manages to sound like a geezer from Dagenham when both his parents have quite posh RP voices is another matter.

I've become fascinated by Labour's mayoral candidate Bev Craig. I can understand a Northern Irish person moving to England at 18 and losing her accent. (Though that's easier said than done; decades in England will usually soften a Norn Iron accent so you get mistaken for Canadian, but not English)

Somehow though, Bev has entirely lost her Belfast accent, and despite spending her whole adult life in very white-collar working environments, she doesn't speak RP either. She seems to have acquired a fake working-class Manchester accent that makes her sound like she's auditioning to be on Phoenix Nights.

Of course this is the Labour Party, so nobody asks why all these people are so weird.

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/07/2026 10:08

"Katie Coles, who chaired the opening rally, declared, “Nothing makes me feel more hopeful, more optimistic than seeing Starmer in a fit of tears outside Downing Street . Good riddance!”

Nice people, so kind!

Lalgarh · 15/07/2026 08:10

They're very easily buttered up aren't they.

Musks former ally said he chose to cultivate fascists because they're easy to buy off with sufficient cash. All the Trotskyites need are a few Smiths lyrics and a Scouse accent

SionnachRuadh · 15/07/2026 07:49

Hadi boasted that people from Burnham’s election team had described SUTR’s mobilisation as “the backbone” of Labour’s campaign on the ground, with SUTR members on occasion outnumbering those drafted in by Labour.

This is such obvious bollocks that I'm surprised even an SWP audience was willing to tolerate it.

fromorbit · 15/07/2026 07:13

report on more comedy a lot has changed in a year

SWP Marxism Festival 2026: a demoralised gathering of political bankrupts
Last year’s Marxism Festival coincided with Zarah Sultana’s announcement that she and Corbyn would lead a new left party to challenge Keir Starmer’s Labour Party. Standing alongside Corbyn at Marxism 2025, Nielsen had told a cheering audience that Corbyn’s new party was the start of a mass mobilisation to defeat war, genocide, austerity and the far-right.
This year’s event took place in the slough of despond. Attendance fell by 2,000 (from last year’s 5,000), and the opening rally at Hackney EartH—whose tiered seating was packed to overflow a year ago—was in the hundreds. Throughout the festival, aside from the opening rally, attendees were mainly SWP stalwarts in their 50s, 60s, and 70s.
Yet Marxism 2026 served a critical purpose for the SWP leadership. Over the four-day event, its speakers insisted on the need to soft-pedal opposition to Labour’s leader-in-waiting Andy Burnham; advocated closer cooperation with Zack Polanski’s Greens; and blocked any criticism of the SWP’s rotten role in promoting the Corbyn project.
Despite Corbyn expelling three SWP national committee members from Your Party last November, the SWP welcomed him onto the main stage on Saturday. Nielsen (one of those expelled) sat next to Corbyn, chatting amicably, never mentioning Your Party, let alone denouncing its betrayals.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/07/10/oqlm-j10.html

SWP Marxism Festival 2026: a demoralised gathering of political bankrupts

Despite Corbyn expelling three SWP national committee members from Your Party last November, the SWP welcomed him onto the main stage on Saturday. Nielsen (one of those expelled) sat next to Corbyn, chatting amicably, never mentioning Your Party, let a...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/07/10/oqlm-j10.html

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2026 23:40

I saw that elsewhere 😂 hilarious

Lalgarh · 14/07/2026 11:36

Imma keep this solitary vigil for the cluster 🦆 going .

From The Many. Now The Few. Sultana faction issues a vote of no confidence against 3 Corbynite members but doesn't have enough clout to actually remove them.

https://nitter.net/charliemansell/status/2076787689160949850#m

Clause 5.2 was invoked, it's that serious .

https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2026/07/13/your-party-no-confidence/

One of those purged/ not purged is described as an "exhibitionist fruitcake" who once chained herself to some railings to protest a parking ticket

https://nitter.net/ArmchairBard/status/2075909384618537362#m

Lalgarh · 21/06/2026 12:06

Corbzy being dredged up on Sky to deliberate on the upcoming coronation of Burnham

https://nitter.net/jeremycorbyn/status/2068432415136043330#m