Transgender Refugees fleeing the USA

The Netherlands is to the left of much of Europe on most things. The recent sentiment against (non-white) immigrants isn't a good indicator of the general state of politics.

Very well said

Wow, you've been busy in the last six minutes.

Maybe have a read around the board first.

What's wrong with men and women in the same toilets?

That is truly disappointing. Another hero tumbling off the pedestal. This sorry mess has taken down so many people I used to respect.

Remember that the Guardian's pivot towards flattering the priors of the dimmer sort of middleclass US students began under Rusbridger & Viner was his favoured candidate as successor.

I think the blog said he was 50; and about to turn pro triathlete. How many biological women turn pro at 50? And of course he wouldn't stand a chance against the male pros.

They aren't that right wing anymore to be fair. The far right lost ground in the last election (that they wanted). And when they were in power they weren't particularly any LGBT. They were mostly anti immigrant and specifically antiMuslim. They are still cool with brothels and all ofthat and I don't think they had much of an opinion on trans.

I mean it's still an incredibly stupid self absorbed thing to do...

You can apparently try...

Can you claim refugee status because someone didn't use the pronouns you prefer?

Could well be. He's cosplaying being a woman, now he can cosplay being a persecuted refugee as well 🙄

Yes, I wondered this. It doesn't explain why in the article.

Is it because the Netherlands still has a laid back image? That it's an LGBTQ haven? But I don't imagine border officials are particularly laid back in any country.

I suspect it's because thay place asylum seekers in camps rather than hotels. The camp helps with the cosplay of being persecuted

Sorry, have not RTFT, but why are they choosing Holland? One of the most right-wing govts in the EU?

And if they just want an "in" to the EU, why - again - are they choosing Holland?!

It's almost like they're fuckwits, or something.

This.

It's one of the smaller things that pisses me off about the whole thing - these men who believe they exist "as women" have no concept of how much of their life opportunities were shaped and eased by being men.

[Edited to note this replies to the discussion about sexism at Uber not the post just preceeding]

Completely agree about feeling sympathetic to those sold the gender lie.

Perhaps not so much for the older male except that some autistic people are so so suggestible, reactive, and susceptible to other’s comments. A careless comment by one person, can lead to life changing consequences for the autistic person. It is, however, heartbreaking for that child in the story. And it’s a tragedy for thousands of children and young adults who have succumbed to the madness of gender ideology, which is damaging their lives.

The worst to come out of this story is the sickening exploitation by The Guardian. That one time great newspaper has been ruined under Viner.

I'd be interested to see how his experiences and salary at Uber compare with those of equally competent women - I seem to remember Uber management having a pretty serious sexual harassment case at one point.

Susan Fowler wrote about the sustained and aggressive sexual harassment she endured at Uber when working at Uber. Including her line manager demanding she have sex with him. She said sexual harassment was completely widespread throughout Uber and stemmed from the top down.

The founder and CEO was ultimately forced to resign by the board after these revelations came to light. Travis Kalanick used to joke about having a ‘gods view’ of being able to track everyone’s location at all times of those who had the Uber app on their phone. It’s one reason why I’ve never used the company and refuse to download the app. The data theft is also likely to be extensive.

https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber

www.ft.com/content/469fbaec-fa76-11e6-9516-2d969e0d3b65

"Those who scream the loudest" suggests they have the most to hide, are weakest, or are seeking attention.

Oh my goodness, I agree with @NumbersGuy on something! Never thought that would happen. This sentence describes TRAs perfectly.

These people don’t sound as if they can be satisfied. Nothing will be enough because they have built their identity upon martyrdom. It’s a bit like what used to be called ‘suicide by cop’. Create a scenario where your own choices paint you into a corner. Tada! Martyrdom.

Definitely, these men screaming the loudest about needing 'validation' are simply after attention for their sad, loveless, insecure and sexless life so they need to hijack real suffering to feed their narcissistic, sociopathic typical male need for attention.

Nah

Pursuit of invented impossible fantasies in an escalating spiral as a result of disordered thinking and fetishist paraphilia is unlikely to bring anything that most people would call 'happiness'.

The most it will bring is brief gratification.

Fortunately these people are trying to find a better and happier life that they can be satisfied with. Unlike the sexless, loveless, insecure, and often below average people who enjoy tearing others down when they have nothing else in their life. "Those who scream the loudest" suggests they have the most to hide, are weakest, or are seeking attention. For those who can identify with this attitude, definitely give yourself kudos because you deserve it!!

It's almost like they 'get off' on it - the victim mentality and glomming onto someone else's oppression, which they do so well. They get so exited with identifying into catastrophe or oppression, him repeating 'validating' really gives the game away. He's using other people's trauma to for points and attention. He and those like him are truly scum. Lower than lower than low. It's like he and they know they have no justification and cannot stand on their own merits, it's why they have to cling to other people's trauma. They have no way to 'validate' their misogynist Mens Rights agenda otherwise. I have no doubt they actually get aroused by the multitude of suffering like what is happening in Iran. Imagine even thinking someone else's suffering 'validates' you? I mean, who thinks that? Other than a narcissistic sociopath.