Well this was totally predictable

That is not equally a possibility. What the fuck?

That would be logical - so no they don’t. Only ‘gender’

How many women will be raped before this insane ideology is stopped?
How many children mutilated in it's name?

Non binary get to decide themselves where they go

You would hope that a hospital would have her correct sex details before admission.

How does this policy decide where a non-binary person wearing trousers should go? Or an agender person?

They certainly wouldn't be 'kind'.

Misgendering shows the total lack of respect for the victim. No. So-called "misgendering" is what caused this mess in the first place. You cannot describe the facts of this case correctly without stating that the victim is female. Anything else shows a total lack of respect for her in this situation.

Not correctly sexing someone aka as affirmation only is promoted as a positive or a neutral action.

Then we have cases like this which starkly show up it's not a neutral act and puts vulnerable people (including transpeople themselves) at significant unnecessary risk.

It's not ok.

This bullshit about 'misgendering' being harmful needs to stop. It's necessary.

No, that person said women rape other women in prison all the time with objects and fists.

That person seems to want to deny any difference between male and female propensity to commit sexual assault.

Presumably for ideological reasons. It’s certainly not a fact based position.

I very much doubt that a woman would intentionally set another woman to be raped just to prove a point against gender ideology

it wasn't a jail, it was a psych unit.

So a mentally unwell transman was asked where they want to go and put in with the men. As a rather small (even for a woman) female.

Make it make sense?

Ooh, I don’t think we need to take lessons from the US in this area 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The people ‘being kind’ were those who wrote the policy that people should go where they identify and decided to record gender not sex. Given both those things objectively exist why do you think it equally possible that a ‘Terf’ was being vindictive in following policy rather than risking discipline by both her employer and her regulator?

Do you really think that someone whose psychological state warrants retention in a psychiatric ward would necessarily have the capacity to make that decision for themselves? And even if she did, the hospital was responsible for ensuring that this highly vulnerable woman was placed in the safest place. I’m quite sure she didn’t need to tell them she was a biological female. I imagine it was obvious. It certainly was to the rapists.

If I was a member of staff on a psychiatric ward and I didn’t know a woman had been admitted to a male ward, I’d be considering what action I could take against the hospital.

They at least need to review and refine their admissions and recording processes.

She would have been safer if she was being sent to prison as she would have been sent to a women's prison.

No, they were very definitely saying ‘woman do it too’

this is a drum that i will never stop banging.

OK if you want to add a field for gender identity, if you really think that is useful or helpful, go ahead.

But always always record sex correctly.

And this works in the TRAs favour, surely? if you can't identify, say, a transwoman, you can't identify where resources might want to be targeted to help them (as in services required/needed/desired for transgender patients at the NHS). You can identify, with actual, real numbers, how many and which categories of crimes are committed against (and by) them. etc etc.

But no. confusion has to rule the day. And this is the end result.
As pp said: Slow. Fucking. Handclap. To. The. TRAs.

Why on earth do you think she wants to go to prison? She was in HOSPITAL

The person who said that transpeople are very vulnerable in Prison is probably saying not that "women do it too", but that transmen and women are specific targets wherever they are incarcerated.

I love Terfwoman. Feels very viking.

She was raped within an hour of arriving on the ward. This suggests that it was pretty obvious to her attackers that she was female.

I'm just stunned that trained NHS staff didn't recognise how vulnerable she was. It really demonstrates that gender ideology can make people do absurd things, and think they are being 'kind' while they're at it.

100%. Which is why we must be 100% clear - all toilets and changing rooms and prisons and wards must be single sex. Naive and gaslit women need protecting from themselves. We do not give people the option to buy shots of cyanide at the pub, and rely on people having the sense not to order it. Why should we give women the somewhat analalogous option to enter a mixed sex space that is more risky that it needs to be because men might be in there?

It was a male secure psychiatric ward in a NHS hospital not a jail