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spannasaurus · 14/01/2026 13:26

JamieCannister · 14/01/2026 13:23

Sorry, I do realize that we can't rank all humans and ascribe their value by reference to height, strength, fertility, good looks, brainpower etc.

I wil say that there is no way gender ideology could take hold in the world without years of political correctness and woke ideology convincing people of insane ideas like "we cannot say that it is better to be tall and strong and sporty than to be short and weak and with no hand/eye co-ordination" or "we can;t say that someone who is genetically pre-disposed to very poor mental health has worse genes compared to someone who is geneticaly pre-disposed to being positive and pro-active and motivated".

Surely we can see that some people due to genetics and / or upbringing are more likely to be vulnerable, and that people are targetted for SA because they are vulnerable and SA can lead to trying to escape womanhood.

You're assuming tall is sporty and strong and not predisposed to poor mental health and short is non sporty and weak and predisposed to poor mental health. That is piffle.

Nicola Adams is fairly short at 5' 4" do you think she is weak and non sporty

AnSolas · 14/01/2026 13:24

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You claim to not know NHS policy on gender and sex?

Yet to have managed to make up a whole theory about how management have hired a trained psychiatric medic to work on the Psychiatric Ward who set out to have female patient raped by men on the male ward.

Wow just wow.

Before your theory runs wild you could try checking what the policy was for that hospital. And FYI unit staff dont write policy so the ethical ownership of how she ended up on a male ward with no extra safeguarding lies with each and every member of the senior management and the board.

WearyAuldWumman · 14/01/2026 13:23

TheKeatingFive · 14/01/2026 09:49

Totally agree. The Telegraph have been good on this issue also.

Also, the Courier. When papers were dutifully avoiding printing the truth, in 2019 the Courier was the first to give a more accurate idea of what had happened: "But instead of being jailed at Kirkcaldy Sheriff Court, Dolatowski, who identifies as a woman but was believed by her victim’s family to be a man, was given community payback and tagging orders."

However, you'll notice that even then this report was very carefully worded.

Source link added.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/819644/mum-of-supermarket-toilet-sex-assault-victim-warns-freed-attacker-could-strike-again/

Mum of supermarket toilet sex assault victim warns freed attacker could strike again

A mother has blasted the sentence given to a sex offender who attacked her 10-year-old daughter in a supermarket toilet. The woman – who cannot be named

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/819644/mum-of-supermarket-toilet-sex-assault-victim-warns-freed-attacker-could-strike-again/

JamieCannister · 14/01/2026 13:23

ErrolTheDragon · 14/01/2026 13:13

Maybe you’d like to ask MNHQ if you can withdraw your earlier post?

(as a naturally short woman my observation when flying, on trains etc is that being small is definitely ‘better’Grin.)

Sorry, I do realize that we can't rank all humans and ascribe their value by reference to height, strength, fertility, good looks, brainpower etc.

I wil say that there is no way gender ideology could take hold in the world without years of political correctness and woke ideology convincing people of insane ideas like "we cannot say that it is better to be tall and strong and sporty than to be short and weak and with no hand/eye co-ordination" or "we can;t say that someone who is genetically pre-disposed to very poor mental health has worse genes compared to someone who is geneticaly pre-disposed to being positive and pro-active and motivated".

Surely we can see that some people due to genetics and / or upbringing are more likely to be vulnerable, and that people are targetted for SA because they are vulnerable and SA can lead to trying to escape womanhood.

RoyalCorgi · 14/01/2026 13:22

Jamie's eugenics-type theory was certainly bold, though it seems unlikely. If indeed trans men are shorter than the average woman, then the use of puberty blockers seems like the most obvious explanation, though not all of them have taken puberty blockers by any means.

It does seem that a lot a trans men are shorter than average (see Stephen Whittle, who appears tiny), but is that simply because they are often pictured next to men, who are inevitably much bigger?

KitWyn · 14/01/2026 13:22

MeltedSunshine · 14/01/2026 13:06

Given one of her rapists was later transferred to a ward she was on, it seems that her new ward was also not a female-only one. I expect if she wanted to sue it would be for the NHS not protecting her from her ‘transphobic’ rapists. There is nothing that we have been told that suggests that she now recognises herself as female and therefore having been placed at very obvious risk in a male ward.

It's very frightening how women who identify as men seem so deeply, irreversibly indoctrinated that neither pregnancy nor p-i-v rape, both only made possible by their female anatomy, makes them think again.

  • Why was a woman with this severity of mental illness considered able to consent to her 'transition'?
  • What risk assessment was carried out as part of the drafting of the NHS policy that allowed her to be placed on a dangerous male ward?
  • What (if anything) should have happened to protect her from male assault?
  • What disciplinary action will managers and staff now face for not protecting her from rape by two other patients?
  • Are the managers and/or staff criminally liable?

How can we ensure this can never happen again in the UK?

MyThreeWords · 14/01/2026 13:15

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I ... but ...

No. It's no good. I literally am speechless.

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MeltedSunshine · 14/01/2026 13:15

JamieCannister · 14/01/2026 13:08

Point taken.

But I am well past worrying about being "politically correct".

AI "Yes, physical and mental health are strongly correlated and interconnected, meaning poor health in one area significantly increases the risk of problems in the other, with chronic conditions like diabetes, heart disease, and cancer often linked to depression or anxiety, and mental health issues impacting motivation for self-care and overall physical well-being. This connection works both ways, often influenced by shared biological factors, lifestyle choices, and behavioral mechanisms like reduced activity due to illness. "

If you were to compare two young women... which one is more likely to get herself in dangerous situations (which may lead to SA and worse MH)? Which one is more likely to be seen as vulnerable and targeted? Which one is more like to come out as trans?

One is physically strong, plays sport regularly, 5'10, good mental health.

One is physically weak, never plays sport, 5'2, poor mental health

Physical and mental health is obviously dependent on other things not just genes (good genes and plenty of good food as a kid trumps poor genes and little access to good food).

Also racist. Do you think the Dutch have better genes than Japanese?

Brefugee · 14/01/2026 13:14

I think it should stay there. As a Horrible Warning.

ErrolTheDragon · 14/01/2026 13:13

JamieCannister · 14/01/2026 13:01

I can't believe I didn't think of this obvious explanation.

Maybe you’d like to ask MNHQ if you can withdraw your earlier post?

(as a naturally short woman my observation when flying, on trains etc is that being small is definitely ‘better’Grin.)

Brefugee · 14/01/2026 13:12

JamieCannister · 14/01/2026 13:01

I can't believe I didn't think of this obvious explanation.

instead of leaping to the rather horrid one?

MeltedSunshine · 14/01/2026 13:10

WearyAuldWumman · 14/01/2026 13:01

That's not how it works.

Richard Snaddon had the capacity to know that he should not rape. He lacks the capacity to understand the impact of his actions on others.

It's not in the articles that I linked to, but other reports at the time made it clear that his actions were planned. It's not clear that he intended his first victim to be a six year old girl. It is clear that he planned to conceal his identity and to rape someone.

Upon release, he understood that he had certain conditions to meet. He chose not to meet them.

He then chose to befriend a vulnerable woman in order to access another victim. The only capacity that he lacks is the capacity to understand how he has affected the lives of others. He has the capacity to understand the consequences of his actions to himself.

Ergo, he had capacity and it's unlikely that he'll ever leave Carstairs.

I live locally to where this all happened. If he had been dealt with properly the first time round, the second case would never have happened.

So he does lack capacity to understand his impact on others and is held in a mental hospital not prison as a result.

Brefugee · 14/01/2026 13:09

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that sounds very eugenics.

JamieCannister · 14/01/2026 13:08

RareGoalsVerge · 14/01/2026 12:55

@JamieCannister I would be cautious about using the word "Better" regarding genes. Genes may make a particular individual more suited or less suited to particular environments and activities. However, the environments and activities that individuals have to survive or wish to excel in are shaped and chosen by a patriarchal capitalist culture so value judgements like "better" aligns you with endorsing the validity of that culture.

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Point taken.

But I am well past worrying about being "politically correct".

AI "Yes, physical and mental health are strongly correlated and interconnected, meaning poor health in one area significantly increases the risk of problems in the other, with chronic conditions like diabetes, heart disease, and cancer often linked to depression or anxiety, and mental health issues impacting motivation for self-care and overall physical well-being. This connection works both ways, often influenced by shared biological factors, lifestyle choices, and behavioral mechanisms like reduced activity due to illness. "

If you were to compare two young women... which one is more likely to get herself in dangerous situations (which may lead to SA and worse MH)? Which one is more likely to be seen as vulnerable and targeted? Which one is more like to come out as trans?

One is physically strong, plays sport regularly, 5'10, good mental health.

One is physically weak, never plays sport, 5'2, poor mental health

Physical and mental health is obviously dependent on other things not just genes (good genes and plenty of good food as a kid trumps poor genes and little access to good food).

Funnywonder · 14/01/2026 13:07

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Fucking hell. What have I just read? I suppose that’s the sort of reaction you’re looking for. Well done you.

MeltedSunshine · 14/01/2026 13:06

heathspeedwell · 14/01/2026 12:10

If this woman wants to sue the NHS for locking her up on a male psych ward, I'm sure there are hundreds of us who would be happy to contribute to a crowd fund.

We have to find a way to stop anything like this happening again.

Given one of her rapists was later transferred to a ward she was on, it seems that her new ward was also not a female-only one. I expect if she wanted to sue it would be for the NHS not protecting her from her ‘transphobic’ rapists. There is nothing that we have been told that suggests that she now recognises herself as female and therefore having been placed at very obvious risk in a male ward.

JamieCannister · 14/01/2026 13:01

heathspeedwell · 14/01/2026 12:45

It would make sense for transmen to be shorter than other women on average because taking puberty blockers frequently stunts their growth. (Which is yet another good reason not to take them).

I can't believe I didn't think of this obvious explanation.

WearyAuldWumman · 14/01/2026 13:01

MeltedSunshine · 14/01/2026 07:22

The lack of capacity is one of the issues that will be considered by the court. If these men did not lack capacity then that also suggests at that point they no longer needed to be in a secure psychiatric ward and should have been released.

That's not how it works.

Richard Snaddon had the capacity to know that he should not rape. He lacks the capacity to understand the impact of his actions on others.

It's not in the articles that I linked to, but other reports at the time made it clear that his actions were planned. It's not clear that he intended his first victim to be a six year old girl. It is clear that he planned to conceal his identity and to rape someone.

Upon release, he understood that he had certain conditions to meet. He chose not to meet them.

He then chose to befriend a vulnerable woman in order to access another victim. The only capacity that he lacks is the capacity to understand how he has affected the lives of others. He has the capacity to understand the consequences of his actions to himself.

Ergo, he had capacity and it's unlikely that he'll ever leave Carstairs.

I live locally to where this all happened. If he had been dealt with properly the first time round, the second case would never have happened.

nicepotoftea · 14/01/2026 12:57

ArabellaScott · 14/01/2026 12:44

This is a theory best kept to yourself while you think it through.

Very much agree.

RareGoalsVerge · 14/01/2026 12:55

@JamieCannister I would be cautious about using the word "Better" regarding genes. Genes may make a particular individual more suited or less suited to particular environments and activities. However, the environments and activities that individuals have to survive or wish to excel in are shaped and chosen by a patriarchal capitalist culture so value judgements like "better" aligns you with endorsing the validity of that culture.

AnSolas · 14/01/2026 12:54

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Or the staff on the ward knew that senior managers up to Board level did not give a flying fuck that the policy which was written and signed off at all levels of management placed a woman directly in harms way by having a policy of placing a woman on what should have been a male only ward?

Or that the staff were given no method to whistleblow and knew that their concern or objection would be ignored?

Or that flaging the concern would result in the staff member being subjected to bullying from other staff and management?

Or that the staff member knew senior management would rather subject the staff member to a disciplinary for whistleblowing than accept that the choice of placing a woman on such a ward was choosing to provide a women to be sexually abused by men?

Or that if some unit staff knew she was a woman but others did not that the management hired people who were a bit shitty at writing policy and more who were unprofessional at doing their job?

Or that management choose to run a unit which was understaffed and poorly managed?

PollyNomial · 14/01/2026 12:54

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Taller, stronger, blue eyes, blonde and a credit to the Aryan race, eh?

TrainedByCats · 14/01/2026 12:53

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FFS some people need a time delay before their thoughts are posted for the world to see

TrainedByCats · 14/01/2026 12:51

MeltedSunshine · 14/01/2026 10:16

Ridiculous but it follows the individual can identify as they wish so 'be kind' and follow their choice rubbish.

When the person who tells you to ‘be kind’ holds the power they are actually demanding you be submissive.

Great observation, it gets to the heart of the problem I have with people telling me to be kind.

Beowulfa · 14/01/2026 12:47

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You need to read up a bit more on genetics then! There is an interesting book on epigenetics that explains why Audrey Hepburn was so petite (was a child during the Dutch Hunger Winter in WW2).