Men in women's bathroom at Not All Gays awards

The female security guard told them she couldn't do anything because they were "dressed as women".

That worked out well because there were women willing to stand up, and women willing to support. I wonder how it would have played if one women had called it out without support? Threats of violence? The security guard deciding that it was equitable to allow the men to stay?

Well done those women (including those filming - which tends to reduce the risk of escalation). Do we all need to be more vocal? Especially if we can do so as part of a group

I thought this video was incredibly telling...

• First there were gender neutral toilets available so there was no need to use this one

• The aggression/verbal threat surfacing at the end shows that in some people no amount of surgery will remove the sense of entitlement and the tendency to violence against women that so many men display.

Good on these women for standing up for themselves.

I think it is sad as well that the loud and entitled monority like that makes it harder for the transgender people who just want to quietly get on with their lives.

I genuinely thought they were drag queens.

Well done those brave young women. Do these guys really think they're ' passing ' ?

Those men have an interesting and not very accurate view of what women look like don't they?

Too much porn, probably.

Remind me why we're supposed to think exposing other women to aggressive entitled men with 162% their punch power in spaces deceptively labelled as single sex, who only see women as porn objects, is 'kind'?

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Any woman watching that was just waiting for one of those guys to make that threat. It couldn't have been more palpable.

Personally, I believe the only reason they didn't get more aggressive was because there were quite a few women, with phones out, plus a security guard.

You could feel it coming from the minute the women refused to back down. Written all over the pair of them. Naming their sex, telling them to leave, it was merely a question of when.

OMG. So AI can recognise it in a 2d/video and STILL people claim that despite millennia of evolution, women cannot be trusted to believe their own eyes?

Grok knows which ones are the men.

https://nitter.poast.org/grok/status/2009922191647781174

Regardless of whether it was a threat of violence or a threat to show the women his cock, it was a threat - the default position of men is to threaten women who challenge them. Twas always thus.

Well done these women for standing firm, and to the security guards who adhered to the law 👏

Women start fights. Not as often as men, but they do. It's not inherently male to start a fight.

For someone to show you he is a man, in this context, I interpret that as exposure of his penis, if not the use of it. The penis is inherently and unmistakeably male.

That doesn't make you wrong, because sexual violence is a subset of violence.

I took it to be a threat of violence.

That's a threat of indecent exposure at best, and rape at worst. Remind me why we want these boundary-violating men in our spaces again.

Women film the abuse of our spaces: "You must be perverts. No one could ever film in the women's loos for a legitimate reason, such as documentating an Equality Act breach in progress."

Women don't film the abuse of our spaces: "It isn't happening. If it was, there'd be evidence."

Your post is DARVO. You deny that men in female spaces are abusing the spaces, accuse the filmer of wrongdoing, and reverse the victim and offender roles by casting the victim of male incursion into women's spaces as the wrongdoer and pretending that the men are harmed by her filming them where they have no right to be.

Not to be confused with NFG (Not for Gays) which is what Sandie Peggie’s judge mistakenly called them.

Ah, glad to be put right
Yes, one could envisage the likes of Upton commenting in a melancholic tone.

It's a reference to the fragrant Dr "Beth" Upton (the one who was in the women's changing rooms that kicked off the Sandie Peggie situation) who during the Employment Tribunal, was revealed to have said "sad times" in his contemporaneous notes. So I'd say it's an entirely sarcastic "sad times".

Also, good for those young women pushing back.

Sad they were removed?
Sad they were there?

They were removed from the ladies loo?
Sad times

Even when there are gender neutral toilets available, they refuse to use them. All they want is to invade women's spaces. They don't want women to ever be allowed a space that doesn't include them.

I slightly misread that, I thought the security guard was giving everyone a piece of her mind.

It also shows that their lady feelz are a big fat massive stinking LIE.

He wouldn't have said that if he really was deluded enough to think he was a woman.

Funnily enough, despite claiming to be literal women, most trans identifying males don't identify into all the unpaid caring women do. It's getting their knobs out and intimidating women in single sex spaces mostly as far as I can tell.

Well done to that female security guard. A very tricky situation.

Oh dear. Post deleted. What a pity.

Sad days!