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Womens toilet with cubicles in the workplace

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Foodylicious · 08/01/2026 22:08

What should the position be here from the employer/organisation perspective, regarding a transwomen intermittently using these, as opposed to the single enclosed toilet (think typical disabled facility available in a supermarket/cafe) they use most of thw time, that is on the same floor/in close proximity.
Edited to add: This is UK, England.

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InfoSecInTheCity · 08/01/2026 22:48

Indianajet · 08/01/2026 22:31

I know I am in the .minority in here, though not in the circles I move in - I just do not get the hysteria over toilets.
I am a woman, I have granddaughters - as long as we can lock our cubicle doors I am happy.

Personally I’m not overly bothered about toilets, HOWEVER if you say that any single sex provision is open to some males then all single sex provision is open to all males and I am definitely bothered about changing rooms, rape/domestic abuse services, personal care from health services, prisons etc. So the line needs to remain clear and it is that no males are allowed in spaces/services designated as for women and girls.

kateonatinroof2 · 08/01/2026 22:46

And apparently there isn’t any violence against women caused by transgender women in toilets unless you count in post encase-rated men who claim to be women in prisons? Not certain what the hysteria is relating to domestic abuse against all types of women in toilets is in reality. I agree with other areas of course that must be female (as opposed to the gendered term of Women) Just saying and I know the gender critical ( is that what it’s called ) contingent will tell me I’m wrong but I’m generally open to all discussions.

sashaymashay · 08/01/2026 22:45

Indianajet · 08/01/2026 22:31

I know I am in the .minority in here, though not in the circles I move in - I just do not get the hysteria over toilets.
I am a woman, I have granddaughters - as long as we can lock our cubicle doors I am happy.

So, firstly some women don’t feel comfortable sharing a room where it could be just her and a man. This might be because;

  1. she has previously been a victim of sexual assault. 110000 women were sexually assaulted by an unknown male in a public place last year. And only 5 in 6 report this, so the numbers are much higher.
  2. she may have been upskirted or filmed by a man in a public place. Cameras being left in toilets filming women in cubicles left by men are in the rise.
  3. she may be a woman who has a young child and sometimes needs to jam the pram in the cubicle and leave the door slightly ajar. This is fairly common for mothers out with sleeping babies.
  4. she may suffer from heavy periods or use a moon cup and doesn’t want to wash menstrual blood from her hands in front of men
  5. she may be constrained by religous beliefs where she can’t undress or be in an enclosed room with unknown men
  6. She may be trying to get away from a man following her or worse and seeking a safe place of refuge.
  7. most importantly she may just want a single sex space fir her own reasons

glad you are ok though. 😏

Hedgehogforshort · 08/01/2026 22:45

Indianajet · 08/01/2026 22:31

I know I am in the .minority in here, though not in the circles I move in - I just do not get the hysteria over toilets.
I am a woman, I have granddaughters - as long as we can lock our cubicle doors I am happy.

Bully for you that you are okay, so lots of other women are not okay.

Hedgehogforshort · 08/01/2026 22:43

@Hoardasurass Not if the door says women, it would have to say gender neutral or mixed sex for it to be legal.

Apollo441 · 08/01/2026 22:42

Indianajet · 08/01/2026 22:31

I know I am in the .minority in here, though not in the circles I move in - I just do not get the hysteria over toilets.
I am a woman, I have granddaughters - as long as we can lock our cubicle doors I am happy.

You ok with them in a changing room getting a good oggle of your granddaughters?

Harpertron · 08/01/2026 22:35

Indianajet · 08/01/2026 22:31

I know I am in the .minority in here, though not in the circles I move in - I just do not get the hysteria over toilets.
I am a woman, I have granddaughters - as long as we can lock our cubicle doors I am happy.

As long as violence against women and girls exists, single sex spaces are essential. Men, should not be in single sex spaces designated for females. Men, believing themselves to be women, does not make them women...

Indianajet · 08/01/2026 22:31

I know I am in the .minority in here, though not in the circles I move in - I just do not get the hysteria over toilets.
I am a woman, I have granddaughters - as long as we can lock our cubicle doors I am happy.

Hoardasurass · 08/01/2026 22:26

If the women's toilets have communal sinks and door gaps then the transwomen should be banned as these are a single sex design, if the sinks are in the cubicles and they have floor to ceiling walls and door the he can use them.
The health and safety at work 1992 act covers this.

InfoSecInTheCity · 08/01/2026 22:24

The TW should not be using them, it’s covered under U.K. health and safety law that employers need to provide single sex provision, they can provide mixed sex facilities only if the toilet and cubicle are fully self contained.

The exact wording of the requirement for separate toilet facilities in UK workplaces is found in Regulation 20(2)(c) of the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992.

Exact Wording
"(2) Without prejudice to the generality of paragraph (1), sanitary conveniences shall not be suitable unless—
...
(c) separate rooms containing conveniences are provided for men and women except where and so far as each convenience is in a separate room the door of which is capable of being secured from inside."

Key Terms and Conditions

  • Definition of "Room": For a unisex facility to be legal under the exception in 20(2)(c), it must be a fully self-contained room—not merely a cubicle with open gaps at the top and bottom.
  • Washing Facilities (Regulation 21): A similar requirement exists for washing facilities under Regulation 21(2)(h), which mandates they be separate for men and women unless they are in a lockable room intended for use by only one person at a time.
  • Hand Washing Exception: The requirement for separate washing facilities does notapply to rooms used solely for washing hands, forearms, and faces.

Citation
The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992, SI 1992/3004, Regulation 20(2)(c).