FWS and Scottish prison service - "trans inmates left sexless..."

SM rsch is often akin to academic "impact" scores, all those Butler citations are taken as numerical proof of her brilliance, nobody stops to ask how many times she's referenced for the purposes of pointing & laughing.

I had not thought of that. Good reason to forget him.

I used to vote for the SNP. For years, they seemed to many people to be fairly sensible. Even if you didn't buy completely into the whole Independence aspect of it. Then they went absolutely radge and made themselves a laughing stock. I look back now and am astounded at how they have imploded so spectacularly. But even now, there are still people voting for them.

Along the same lines, I used to have faith and some pride in the Scottish Parliament. Now I think the whole mess needs thrown out and started again.

And they haven't paid their legal costs to FWS either!

I think it's less that we can't remember Hypnotits' real name than we don't want the feckwitted data scrapers at Aston to start prattling about his "popularity" on MN.

Didn’t know prisoners were entitled to sex ?

“in an intermediate zone of neither one sex nor the other”

I think this is a reference to the reasoning in the Goodwin judgement, yet somehow, even back in 2004, there was never any doubt over who should inherit a peerage.

The activists should have quite while they were ahead in 2004. A fudge that makes no sense can work if nobody knows about it. Everything they have done since that has just shed more light on the flaws in the Goodwin judgement.

The Greens leader doesn't know what he is saying. If Isla Bryson is a rapist then in the UK that makes him a man (since rape can only be performed with a penis).
I notice none of us remember his name.

It looks as if the Scottish government wants to force the hand of Westminster in amending the EA2010 to mean 'legal sex'. That is what all the posturing is about. Attempting such a change would be toxic because the general public is beginning to understand what trans rights are and what they mean for safety, dignity and privacy for women.

plenty of people on these boards used to vote for SNP, or Labour, or Lib Dem, or Greens, or Tories, and have changed their minds, sometimes more than once. There's no shame in chaging one's mind. In fact I'd say it's far more sensible to do so when the evidence suggests the position has changed. Those who are still, somehow, clinging to the idea that the SNP are good, wholesome, up-and-at-em wee champions of the underdog are the ones who are utterly baffling.

At this point invoking Hanlon's Razor is the most generous I can possibly be.

Information on TwiX from Trina Budge (of FWS):

https://x.com/hightreebud/status/2009397900036726834
"If you wonder why @scotgov was influenced by "Convention rights" argument and reverted back to claiming access by self-id, this could form part of the answer. Trans orgs have bi-monthly meetings with officials and regular roundtables with Ministers. No-one else gets this access."

They are obviously being incentivised by someone to push this complete bullshit. What other explanation could there be?

They don't really think men become sexless. They are performing a parody of feminism, and are misusing the 'intersectional' argument.

Don't worry I did as well, @silverwrath , multiple times.

Never again and I'll be telling any of the SNP folks that come round to my door during the election time exactly why not.

'Sexless'.

I may be a dinosaur, but to me that definition suggests 'starved of intimate interaction'. However, the fact that these people have an endless problem with accurate terminology comes as no surprise!

But they have! The rapist gamete, according to the Greens leader. I wonder if it's called Spislagg, in reference to its most famous producer...

I reckon we could go Net Zero and 100% electric vehicles tomorrow if we hooked an alternator up to Elizabeth Fry's coffin.

I have a more sinister suspicion.

They view women as what some radfems call "the rape class". By that, radfems mean "the class of people who exist as valid targets for rapists within a patriarchy", "the people that it's OK to rape under at least some circumstances", and by extension "the people who should expect to be raped".

To them, putting men into the same cages as women who cannot even freely access the morning after pill, let alone an abortion, is more acceptable than putting those men into cages with other men, because women are the rape class and men are not. Putting women at risk of rape conforms to patriarchal social order. Putting men at risk of rape violates that social order.

ScotGov and UKGov are tying themselves in knots, lying, stalling, and generally acting like shameless sleekit fuckwits over the Supreme Court ruling because they don't want to give in to the women of FWS. We've all had to deal with men like this who go apeshit in trying to punish you if you, a mere woman, beat him at something.

They feel irritation and shame at being bested by 3 middle-aged women who have the audacity to question their betters and to not be a huge NGO, with latent kudos attached to their name, while doing so - Swinney and Starmer would feel better if they were beaten by Amnesty or Stonewall, those names have panache and elan in their minds.

Both governments are refusing to give in and obey the law in order to demonstrate how little they care for uppity women who disagree with them.

Scottish government is a mess, they just need to follow the Supreme Court ruling and look after single sex spaces. Potentially create a trans prison if required? Females in prison have been on the receiving end of male abuse and are deeply traumatised , they desperately need safe female spaces

I learned my lesson. But it's the sin that keeps on giving. 😕