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ArabellaSaurus · 21/01/2026 10:59

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 10:20

I do employ and/or work with biology graduates and have done for several decades now and what strikes me is how many of them are lacking a general understanding of biology. They are good at the bits they studied but they often can't put anything into context or see the bigger picture. And don't get me started on the lack of basic chemistry and physics. This is of course not all of them but many and it's also possibly not their fault but how degrees are structured.

Not a Scientist, but Ive heard this is sometimes an issue with sciences in general. As more and more knowledge accrues, people necessarily become ever more specialised, and can sometimes lack broad overviews or awareness of overarching principles.

1984Now · 21/01/2026 10:56

WearyAuldWumman · 21/01/2026 10:20

Bloody hell.

I recall many years ago my late mum talking about that a documentary on Guevedoces and my mum - with only her Scottish Leavers' Certificate awarded at the age of 14 - was able to understand the situation.

I mean, talking online to an apparent expert talking about little girls sprouting penises at puberty, and the idyll of that society whereas the West, especially TERF Island, would only find rancour and conflict.
To add the cherry on the cake, his wife and teenage daughter agree with his take.
I should have asked if they have Zoology degrees as well, lol.

BrokenSunflowers · 21/01/2026 10:34

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 10:20

I do employ and/or work with biology graduates and have done for several decades now and what strikes me is how many of them are lacking a general understanding of biology. They are good at the bits they studied but they often can't put anything into context or see the bigger picture. And don't get me started on the lack of basic chemistry and physics. This is of course not all of them but many and it's also possibly not their fault but how degrees are structured.

Not just degrees. This is the SQA Higher syllabus:

DNA and the genome
The key areas covered are:
 structure of DNA
 replication of DNA
 gene expression
 cellular differentiation
 the structure of the genome
 mutations
 evolution
 genomic sequencing
Metabolism and survival
The key areas covered are:
 metabolic pathways
 cellular respiration
 metabolic rate
 metabolism in conformers and regulators
 metabolism and adverse conditions
 environmental control of metabolism
 genetic control of metabolism
Sustainability and interdependence
The key areas covered are:
 food supply, plant growth and productivity
 plant and animal breeding
 crop protection
 animal welfare
 symbiosis
 social behaviour
 components of biodiversity
 threats to biodiversity

WearyAuldWumman · 21/01/2026 10:34

Actually, I'm getting flashbacks to my either my first or second year of teaching.

One of our 3rd Yr boys had bet the rest of the year group that he'd wear a skirt to school. (He'd borrowed a gym skirt from one of the girls.) I believe he made a great deal of money out of the caper. (And yes, I'm aware of the more recent case where a load of boys wore skirts as a protest against not being allowed shorts. This was strictly for monetary gain.)

I've no doubt that all concerned would be in huge trouble now, but this was a Fife high school at the time of the miners' strike.

The depute dealt with it by leaving the boy to sit outside the heidie's office all morning. (The heidie was out at a meeting.)

The boy's Guidance Teacher was a mature entrant to teaching. (This was a 'tough school' which made a point of hiring mature male teachers when possible.)

Some of the staff were former mineworkers. The GT had formerly been employed at Rosyth Dockyard.

As I walked past the hapless seated boy, I heard the GT remarking to another mature entrant "Well, what d'ye think of this, Mr X? We're going tae have tae get the Educational Psychologist tae this lad. He doesn't know whether he pees standing up or sitting down!"

ETA The GT is no longer in the land of the living and I'm now retired.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/01/2026 10:25

1984Now · 21/01/2026 08:33

No idea how recent, but yes, Zoology.

My late husband did a Scottish Higher in Zoology* prior to going to uni. According to him, it was one of the easiest Highers you could do then - DH had left school at 15 and was working full-time whilst studying for entry to Aberdeen Uni.

I can just hear him saying "Does the loon no ken the difference atween a tup and a yowe?"

*I don't think it's currently available. Maybe they should bring it back.

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 10:20

1984Now · 21/01/2026 08:33

No idea how recent, but yes, Zoology.

I do employ and/or work with biology graduates and have done for several decades now and what strikes me is how many of them are lacking a general understanding of biology. They are good at the bits they studied but they often can't put anything into context or see the bigger picture. And don't get me started on the lack of basic chemistry and physics. This is of course not all of them but many and it's also possibly not their fault but how degrees are structured.

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WearyAuldWumman · 21/01/2026 10:20

1984Now · 20/01/2026 22:43

I'm currently on/off arguing with a Zoology major on his claim biological sex is a spectrum, more and more info coming to light that binary sex is out of date science.
He's mentioned Guevedoces in the Dominican Republic, where as he says it, so many girls develop penises at puberty, and how their society has lovingly integrated these "trans" into their society, the women there absolutely happy, and why can't we do this in the West.
Of course I've dissented, and I'm told I'm sadly ill informed, and a purveyor of poisonous culture wars, attacking a minority.
Now I've mentioned DSDs, Imane Khelif and Caster Semanya, and I won't hear from this chump again.
Here we have an absolutely captured scientist.
If the science can be captured, what hope politicians could ever be relied on?

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Bloody hell.

I recall many years ago my late mum talking about that a documentary on Guevedoces and my mum - with only her Scottish Leavers' Certificate awarded at the age of 14 - was able to understand the situation.

ArabellaSaurus · 21/01/2026 10:15

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Agreed. It is utterly repellent.

ArabellaSaurus · 21/01/2026 10:13

WearyAuldWumman · 20/01/2026 22:34

My MSP is Jenny Gilruth. Definitely captured.

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1984Now · 21/01/2026 08:33

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:42

A recent zoology graduate?

No idea how recent, but yes, Zoology.

Igneococcus · 21/01/2026 06:42

1984Now · 20/01/2026 22:43

I'm currently on/off arguing with a Zoology major on his claim biological sex is a spectrum, more and more info coming to light that binary sex is out of date science.
He's mentioned Guevedoces in the Dominican Republic, where as he says it, so many girls develop penises at puberty, and how their society has lovingly integrated these "trans" into their society, the women there absolutely happy, and why can't we do this in the West.
Of course I've dissented, and I'm told I'm sadly ill informed, and a purveyor of poisonous culture wars, attacking a minority.
Now I've mentioned DSDs, Imane Khelif and Caster Semanya, and I won't hear from this chump again.
Here we have an absolutely captured scientist.
If the science can be captured, what hope politicians could ever be relied on?

Edited

A recent zoology graduate?

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 21/01/2026 06:27

1984Now · 20/01/2026 22:17

Multiple hydra-headed Medusa. I've seen Jason And The Argonauts.

Wrong film, Medusa had a head full of snakes and turned anyone looking at her into stone. It was Hercules that battled the Hydra. That's why defeating this post modernism monster will be a herculean task.

HildegardP · 21/01/2026 03:40

@1984Now TB strictly F, in this instance you weren't arguing with a scientist - you were arguing with an undergraduate & an alarming number of those are thick as mince.

DrBlackbird · 20/01/2026 23:28

If the science can be captured, what hope politicians could ever be relied on?

The more you try to have a logical conversation about the harms of their religion, the more they double down 1984 style to insane degrees.

1984Now · 20/01/2026 22:43

WearyAuldWumman · 20/01/2026 22:34

My MSP is Jenny Gilruth. Definitely captured.

I'm currently on/off arguing with a Zoology major on his claim biological sex is a spectrum, more and more info coming to light that binary sex is out of date science.
He's mentioned Guevedoces in the Dominican Republic, where as he says it, so many girls develop penises at puberty, and how their society has lovingly integrated these "trans" into their society, the women there absolutely happy, and why can't we do this in the West.
Of course I've dissented, and I'm told I'm sadly ill informed, and a purveyor of poisonous culture wars, attacking a minority.
Now I've mentioned DSDs, Imane Khelif and Caster Semanya, and I won't hear from this chump again.
Here we have an absolutely captured scientist.
If the science can be captured, what hope politicians could ever be relied on?

Alpacajigsaw · 20/01/2026 22:38

Hoardasurass · 20/01/2026 21:27

I noticed that in all their talk about trans rights they completely ignore womens rights. They talk about torture and cruel and unusual punishment towards the men if they're not allowed into womens jails but forget that the haig consider mixed sex prison a war crime and a crime against humanity.
I'm so angry at the complete disregard of women as anything other than a validation prop for men

Yes this. They don’t give a shit do they. No regard to the convention rights of women

Waitwhat23 · 20/01/2026 22:36

WearyAuldWumman · 20/01/2026 22:33

The outcome of our council by-election is going to be interesting. I've been getting more communications from the SNP than anyone else. (In 2nd place is Reform.)

I've not had any canvassers at my door, unfortunately.

I will be returning any leaflets etc to sender with a 'Hahahahah! No.' printed over the party's name.

WearyAuldWumman · 20/01/2026 22:34

1984Now · 20/01/2026 22:29

What do the SNP female MSPs think about this? Are they so captured? Are they willing converts? Or, are many/most/all so compromised they have nothing to say.
We're entering without doubt the most dangerous time ever since I was born at the tail end of the Boomer generation, and the vast majority of our politicians are not fit for purpose.
To do any reasonable task, I'd take ANY 12 year old school kid over an SNP or Scottish Green MSP.

My MSP is Jenny Gilruth. Definitely captured.

WearyAuldWumman · 20/01/2026 22:33

Waitwhat23 · 20/01/2026 22:21

I have no idea. It baffles me. Even aside from this issue, they're shite.

The outcome of our council by-election is going to be interesting. I've been getting more communications from the SNP than anyone else. (In 2nd place is Reform.)

I've not had any canvassers at my door, unfortunately.

1984Now · 20/01/2026 22:29

BunfightBetty · 20/01/2026 22:20

I was just about to post similar. There is nothing about the impact on women at all - not to head off questions, not even a small nod in the direction of women's concerns to try and show balance, even if tokenistic. It's completely ignored.

They don't even bother to pretend they give a shit about 51% of the population. They're so cock-sure of being voted in again.

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What do the SNP female MSPs think about this? Are they so captured? Are they willing converts? Or, are many/most/all so compromised they have nothing to say.
We're entering without doubt the most dangerous time ever since I was born at the tail end of the Boomer generation, and the vast majority of our politicians are not fit for purpose.
To do any reasonable task, I'd take ANY 12 year old school kid over an SNP or Scottish Green MSP.

Waitwhat23 · 20/01/2026 22:21

RhannionKPSS · 20/01/2026 21:59

How on earth can any sensible woman, or man, for that matter vote for the SNP is completely beyond my comprehension

I have no idea. It baffles me. Even aside from this issue, they're shite.

BunfightBetty · 20/01/2026 22:20

Hoardasurass · 20/01/2026 21:27

I noticed that in all their talk about trans rights they completely ignore womens rights. They talk about torture and cruel and unusual punishment towards the men if they're not allowed into womens jails but forget that the haig consider mixed sex prison a war crime and a crime against humanity.
I'm so angry at the complete disregard of women as anything other than a validation prop for men

I was just about to post similar. There is nothing about the impact on women at all - not to head off questions, not even a small nod in the direction of women's concerns to try and show balance, even if tokenistic. It's completely ignored.

They don't even bother to pretend they give a shit about 51% of the population. They're so cock-sure of being voted in again.

1984Now · 20/01/2026 22:17

moto748e · 20/01/2026 22:14

It may not have many divisions, but it is legion.

Multiple hydra-headed Medusa. I've seen Jason And The Argonauts.

moto748e · 20/01/2026 22:14

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/01/2026 22:12

legal-charity-third sector blob

The EDI industrial complex.

It may not have many divisions, but it is legion.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/01/2026 22:12

1984Now · 20/01/2026 20:59

Initially I thought the left in govt sinking political capital wholesale into trans rights was an example of the long march thru the institutions, then I fell more for the theory of Captain Cock Up (literally true when it comes to AGPs in women's spaces), then the idea that TRA is a neo religion and caste structure.
But more and more I'm thinking that the whole of politics in this modern era where decisions aren't made by MPs directly, but materialize thru the æther of the legal-charity-third sector blob, where politicos have lost any existence re the traditional class war, but since the Wall came down are subborned to literal uselessness.
All they have is their progressive echo chamber & their impotence to enact anything to make the population at large have better lives, so they purity spiral on trans rights, critical race theory, policing wrongspeak.
These are people I wouldn't trust to sort a shopping list, let alone policies that directly impinge the lives of millions, including millions of girls and women.
As to why the SNP are prepared to die on this most extreme of hills, that echo chamber is how they maintain relationships in politics as well as judge the virtue of others, and as horizontal radicalising continues unabated, the absolutely insane becomes the definitely sane in their eyes.
The problem is, the further they go down this rabbit hole, the further they get away from the light, until all they can see is each other, and this becomes their normal.

legal-charity-third sector blob

The EDI industrial complex.