Mumsnet is now backing Reform UK - survey

Same. Any old gobshite can spout opinions as facts on Twitter.
Some actual evidence and facts, please?

Wut 😂

I'm not really bothered about randoms on TwiX.

I want to know the facts regarding all the Muslims in G&D voting Green. As you said in your post at 08.50.

And this is where it leads…
https://x.com/daveatherton20/status/2027308801880125857?s=46

You want to know what is going on in Manchester?
This is what is going on:
https://x.com/kiszelyphilip/status/2027371330245370012?s=46

The Greens are, if anything, breaking slightly from the biradari network style of doing politics. They're trying to appeal directly to Abdul on TikTok, where Labour has traditionally relied on Abdul's grandad filling out all the postal ballots for the family, so that's 16 votes for Abdul's grandad's mate the Labour councillor.

It's true they're doing it in a really crass and dumb way, with messaging in Urdu going "yo Pakistanis, Keir Starmer is Narendra Modi's bitch, vote for the Green posse innit", but what do you expect from a party that elected Ali G as its leader.

Fucking hell!🤯
All of them?🤯🤯🤯

How do you know?

Labour have benefitted from bloc voting in the past (trade unions, ethnic communities, working class communities, students in university towns), and have very much encouraged it, it seems that the Green party have learned from this and implemented the strategy more successfully in this by-election.

There's also increased fragmentation in both the Left and Right voting populations - voters are increasingly unhappy with the established parties and are willing to lend their votes to smaller parties in hopes of generating improvements in the system that will improve their lives. Politics in lots of Western countries at the moment is in flux. To quote Amos Burton in The Expanse: "Float to the top or sink to the bottom, everything in the middle is the churn."

https://www.electionanalysis.uk/uk-election-analysis-2024/section-2-voters-polls-and-results/changing-pattern-amongst-muslim-voters-the-labour-party-gaza-and-voter-volatility/

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-two-bloc-polarisation-of-britains-voters-and-party-members/

Because I never posted it. I never said that every Muslim voted for the Greens, but I do think that there have been questionable voting patterns in this election and I do think that many previous Labour voters posted Green rather than Reform or any other party. I also think, that is labour had put Andy Burnham in to contest this seat, the outcome may have been very different.

'Family voting' (two people using a polling booth at the same time) is a criminal offence and should certainly be investigated.

We know that the there were shady goings on in some constituencies at the last election if for no other reason than what Jess Phillips reported.

However, to say that 'Every Muslim voted Green, as instructed by The Muslim Vote organisation.' (which I acknowledge was not your post) still implies that no Muslim was able to decide for themselves that they are fed up with Labour, aren't won over by Reform and so will vote Green - just like anyone else.

I could write an essay on why Zack Polanski is a tosser, but I think most people just aren't that interested in politics.

I do think there are some concerns about the integrity of the election and those need to be investigated, because it will cause local and national tension if there are any doubts left unresolved.

What are you implying by posting that though, and what does it have to do with what you were replying to - somebody challenging the"Every Muslim voted Green? It doesn't prove every single person who is Muslim voted Green, so why post it? They're all individual people. Comes across as sly insinuations.

Interesting, I have been doing a bit of research and came across this.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/02/27/family-voting-concerns-raised-gorton-denton-by-election-27131475/?ito=facebook%7Csocial%7Cmetroukfacebook&ito=facebook%7Csocial%7Cmetroukfacebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawQOVyNleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBBdENGeU5rTHhEZVpDSmZKc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHn1yBalrj73b5p8VxgZwjZ5R8IJn3KZyl5-JG04WQMyF5fGSTB-1Q9UhrBsP_aem_yKh6pFh76dg1I3S494Al9w

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/gorton-denton-byelection-anna-turley-family-voting-b2928598.html

I was referring to the original post in the chain that quoted Muslims being instructed to vote in a particular way.

Please forgive me if I have overlooked something, but where have I mentioned "underhand campaign"?

Why would you need some kind of underhand campaign?

Labour is unpopular with everyone and people like to make protest votes at by elections. Who else were you expecting them to vote for?

Please look at how the demographic of Gorton and Denton has changed from 2011 to 2021. It has increased from 19.9% Muslim to 29.6% Muslim.

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/religiousdiversity/cgi-bin/seatdetail.py?seat=Gorton%20and%20Denton

Or lots of people voted Green because they don't think much about politics and they want to express their dissatisfaction with Labour and Conservatives and they think Reform are idiots.

I don't like Zack Polanski, but the reason for this win doesn't have to be that deep.

"Every Muslim voted Green, as instructed by The Muslim Vote organisation"

I shall politely and respectfully suggest that you need to be careful when simply parroting fables put out by the losers.

As we've seen with Trump many times, reaching immediately for the "it was rigged!" simply because the winner does not align with your particular ideology is directly out of the far-right playbook and not a position you want to be in.

You must show, demonstrably and provably, that your assertion - which we all know is nonsense - is in fact true.

Will post more later, but the Gorton & Denton result should wake everyone up. Every Muslim voted Green, as instructed by The Muslim Vote organisation. There was ‘family voting’ which is illegal attempts to coerce someone (a wife / daughter most likely) to vote their way. Muslims used to vote Labour, but the Greens are now promising them more. They will use the Greens until they have enough support for Independent Islamist candidates, which is already happening in other areas. Zack Polanski is a foolish puppet who thinks his party’s popularity is due to socialism and his ‘charisma’ rather than Islamist backing.
This is Mothin Ali (the ‘deputy’ leader of Green Party). Can you see his wife in these photos? No? That is the intention

Saw some people asking about Muslims and Islam for women. Muslim TV host explains when rape is okay.

https://x.com/lizarosen0000/status/2023126638397927903?s=46

In 2015/16, there were well over a thousand German women sexually assaulted by illegal immigrants (mainly from North Africa and the Middle East) during the New Year celebrations. That would tell me, that there were between 5,000 to 10,000 men carrying out those attacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults

We can't stop people who are legally here who are misogynist potential rapists.

What we CAN do is not import more. A fair number of men who've raped children recently have come from Europe where they've already been found guilty of sexual offences. Served their time, got released and come here and been put up in hotels, supported to offend again. Even when caught and prosecuted they're costing the state a vast amount of money while their victims get fuck all in terms of support. And often their lives are ruined for good.

Why on earth should we accept that it's just going to keep getting worse and not take the most basic of steps to stop it getting worse?

Men who arrive illegally have no right to be here, many come from backgrounds that see women as slaves - literally they are in favour of female slavery. Their rates of offending against women is far higher than for British men or long term immigrants (in general). We're knowingly importing a huge risk.

It's like saying 'oh well, things are bad, half my stuff's been stolen, I'm just going to open my house doors wide so that any burglars coming past can take the rest and I'll die in poverty'. Like WTAF. It's suicidal.

It's depressing how much people are willing to sacrifice individual girl and women's lives to be 'right on'. People who use this straw man argument are choosing to sacrifice women and girls (some of whom will be immigrants I'm sure too but not men so they don't count, I guess).

I'm totally in favour of immigration if it's women from Afghanistan. The demographic matters.

Oooos one Gunnar on Gov website.

Muslim population in 2021 around 7%, whilst prison population is 18%.

Not sure where to start. Have you looked at this and how the greens are grooming the Muslim vote from Labour.

checkout some of the videos from Imans and Islamic speakers.

women less than cattle

if she refuses sex a manmaynhit her but not mark her just remind her of her role

they are instructed to wear hijab to help other me not list after the women. So the man can’t control his urges so hide away.

any women is seen as available after they first bleed so 9-12.

one final for us all. If you are not Muslim you must pay a tax, if you refuse to pay a tax they behead you.

just type in Google and see all the crimes. how many terror related incidents anywhere are not because of Islam?

ps a majority of the illegals are all Muslims, many from North Africa ( where Christian’s are being massacred )