Stonewall is in financial difficulty

so there nothing unusual about stonewall experiencing the same

Probably, but Stonewall for years received income from organisations effectively for pats on the head from Stonewall for doing what Stonewall wanted in their organisation. They were paying Stonewall to cheer them on.

“Give us money and we will put you in a league table if you’re worthy enough.”

Most other charities do the work others can’t do or don’t want to do. Companies were paying Stonewall to do what they could do perfectly well without them.

Once organisations cottoned on to the fact they could having a perfectly functioning HR system without Stonewall and that figurative pats on the head were about as worthy as literal pats on the head, they stopped giving them a hell of a lot of money.

People will still give money when they can to worthy charities, and if things pick up then worthy charities will see their incomes increase again, but there’s no chance of Stonewall’s income returning to what it was because the jig is up. Stonewall’s entire model was a form of MLM, a racket, a con and everyone sees it now. Give money to an animal shelter and you can tangibly see where you money goes: shelter, food, staff to care for the animal. Give money to Stonewall now and your money goes….where?

“To fight for LGBT rights.”

Which means…what?

I cannot wait to see them go completely under. They are directly responsible for pushing for the sterilisation of children and for men in women’s spaces. It can’t come soon enough.

These are not Stonewall's "current" accounts. They are for the year 2024, mostly.

Stonewall has seen a catastrophic fall in income, due to the failure of its extortionate (in all senses of the word) "Stonewall Champions" grift.

Most charities are experiencing this.

costs, especially salary costs, are rising hugely and income can’t keep up.

most are cutting services and imposing redundancies.

so there nothing unusual about stonewall experiencing the same

A quote from a different poster on that trans Reddit thread:

I had a good natter with the manager of a local LGBT charity that I was once a trustee of and volunteer at.

It's been going since the 80s.

It's a different world from when I was there ten years ago.

They're a much smaller organisation now, mostly due to generally reduced available funds.

This year it has become much worse though.

They used to be able to make extra pennies though LGBT awareness work at local schools. This year, that's basically dried up.

So they've been stopped from spreading their ideology in schools, and taking money from the local education authority? Sad times.

FAFO?

🎻sad times.

In my head there's an image of a guy who owns a printing business reading this thread and getting really depressed. He was doing so well out of printing all those rainbow flags with the invading trans arrow forcing it's way in from the left.
Don't worry brother, I got you! Switch to printing rainbow flags with the trans invading arrow turned around and now being shoved out off the rainbow flag. You'll make even more money printing those I promise you.

Wow yes - I wonder how many staff are jumping ship and finding jobs elsewhere before the redundancies start? Maybe putting the news out there is a way of getting the staff numbers down at no/low cost?

So many flags.......!

Excellent work by the Redditor upthread. Heartening to see that many only have 1 year's worth of reserves to cover costs. Although this assumes they can't do a big crowdfunder a la FWS.

They also will have much bigger overheads than the charities mentioned. Many on our side talk about lack of meeting spaces/offices etc and using the kitchen table - proper grass roots stuff. So the GC people can go on for longer and need less money.

The funding dip will really test the TRAs mettle. They turn out with flags, paint, piss and shouting but will they put their hands in their pockets to do without for the cause? And have the cases they have already funded put them off? The GLP doesn't seem shy of wasting their donations on poorly constructed legal arguments...

Will be very interesting to watch as more become aware that they are considered TERFs for believing sex is real and immutable, hence GC potential for donations will go up and the GI side will continue to go down - with 39% of the UK saying they think trans rights have gone too far, it is very unlikely that GI fundraisers will get them out of the mess....

Yup. They don't have enough there to cover redundancy liabilities never mind any ongoing commitments. Three months running costs should be the minimum.

Flags are so expensive!

Flags, loads of staff, flags, Pride, court cases, and more flags......!

How on earth can they be in such dire straits? They had access to the coffers of practically every big organisation in Britain for several years, and charged ridiculous amounts for their resources. What the jeff have they been spending it all on?

Welsh Gov also gave them about £100,000. As did the Welsh Arts Council who are funded by WG and the National Lottery.

The levels of funding in the 'trans' organisations vs the 'terf' organisations (apologies for the lazy descriptions) is really interesting isnt it. Almost like those involved on the terf side are doing it because they feel strongly about doing the right thing, even where it is not in their personal interest, rather than a massive grift ...

[Disclaimer: am currently reading Time to Think and am shocked at what I am reading about Mermaids,amongst other things].

What makes me think that either government will oblige?

Well, the SNP is hardly neutral in its support, and trans lobbyists are well versed in the dark arts when it comes to Whitehall. Hope I am wrong. Time will tell.

Scottish Government handed Stonewall £400k in taxpayers’ money

What makes you think that either government will oblige? Yes, government has continued to make grants to Stonewall (about half a million pounds in the financial year to March according to their report), but those will relate to specific activities. Who in government would be approving financial support to a charity just because it's in difficulty?

I would imagine that Stonewall will look to the Scottish government and that in Westminster to bail it out. And no doubt they will oblige.

Interesting analysis. All small organisations with fairly minimal funding but managing to be effective in their areas I would say. No sign of the right wing American millions though 🙄

Entirely self-inflicted...

I am a bi woman and they lost my support when my former workplace (a charity) circulated their equality and diversity workplace advice booklet to all employees. As a woman and as a feminist I was appalled by the content.

It is a shame that Stonewall wasted their historical legacy as a defender of gay rights and that some decent Stonewall front line staff might lose their job because the charity board and senior management chose to lead it in the wrong direction and turned it toxic and dogmatic.

I worked (briefly) with Stonewall back in the day, as part of my union exec role. Makes me so angry to think of how much good they could have continued doing.

Or possibly some might merge? Would probably only prolong the demise, though.

Jo Bartosch:

https://unherd.com/newsroom/stonewall-deserves-to-go-broke/

I was very pleased to see this in the paper today OP. I'm hoping they run out of funds completely and cease to exist.