No Women's Right Campaigners in New Year's Honours List

Yep. Although my experience was of pointing out we had not yet considered [Person X] on the shortlist of nominees and being told “we’ve already got a woman” as if the only reason anyone female was on the list was for tokenism.

This is an example of where multiple segregated shortlists should be used. If you are going to use some kind of quota to ensure that women and BAME people aren't overlooked, you rank the BAME women on their own list, the white women on their own list, etc etc, so that the best from each list get the honours.

I used to sit on a couple of honours committees and can assure you that decisions can be taken in the most arbitrary way. They tot up at the end, and if there are not enough women/minority ethnic successes, then white men get bounced and people are picked at random from the no list.

Starmer and co wouldn't have let a GC woman fighting for women's rights get nominated.

Because they are chickenshit. They dare not stand up say what they know is right.

ETA: grammar

Starmer and co wouldn't have let a GC woman fighting for women's rights get nominated. What HMK thinks, who knows?

Honours can be granted by the President in a presidential republic and by Parliament in a parliamentary republic.

Starmer et al have been working for years on stuffing the HoL with cronies to further their agenda and fuck up actual democracy:

Tbf, the HoL has had a large Tory majority since forever (and still does). Maybe Tories have had more time in power to devote to 'stuffing'?

@Shortshriftandlethal I agree with that. All this DEI and trans propaganda isn't for me.

The right to occupy a specific categorisation of human being with its own particular characeristics, needs and requirements.

Yeah. Ennobled 22 August 2024. I think that Rishi Sunak gave her a peerage in his resignation honours list.

All of them now.

What rights do women have if the word ‘woman’ is made meaningless by the inclusion of men?

I am not convinced talent at a sport should by itself be worthy of OBEs and MBEs - that is what medals are for. But no high achieving sports person just turns up to a match without years of training.

@IwantToRetire what rights are Women missing?

That could well date back to the time when there were travelling troupes of actors or King's Players...who provided enterrtainment for the monarch.

I do think that some actors can represent national values and come to take on an iconic image in the public perception.

Did she? Didn't realise.

Actors shouldn’t be getting Damehoods/Knighthoods.

It is getting more and more difficult to get anybody to step up and do the voluntary roles that make a real difference in a quiet way to how our society functions. Even 30+ years ago it was hard to persuade most of the parents attending the baby and toddler group I was involved with to do the absolute minimum of agreeing to open and lock up once every few months. An honours system that recognises the people who did step up and put themselves out to give something back to society and make a positive difference to the world is a good thing and I support it.

Perhaps we should have a concerted campaign here to nominate various women who've worked incredibly hard to try to counter the relentless rise of gender ideology. Off the top of my head, Maya Forstater and Helen Joyce from Sex Matters, the FWS founders Susan Smith, Marion Calder and Trina Budge, Rosie Duffield, Nicola Williams from Fair Play for Women, Stephanie Davies-Arai from Transgender Trend (she has a BEM which is about the lowest honour the system can award, she deserves far more) and Professor Alice Sullivan who managed to get the ONS to change the census question in England and Wales through a legal challenge. J. K. Rowling already has a great many honours and has refused more, I believe.

Agreed. So many more bills would get through without the sort of scrutiny they deserve it it wasn't for the Lords.

For anyone who might have thought that Starmer et al support women’s rights, have a good look at his actions

It isn't just Labour who role out an honours list each year.
We should abolish the automatic right to enter the Lords and for lifetime membership. Trouble is, we'd then have a situation where we'd be voting for them as well as MPs, although it be worth a try. It should definitely be massively scaled back. And so should the honours lists.

Well she did get a peerage so I would say that her contribution has been recognised.