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Students warned that Shakespeare's Twelfth Night has cross-dressing scenes

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IwantToRetire · 28/12/2025 21:54

University of Liverpool cautions that the play - which features cross-dressing characters and has been enjoyed by audiences for more than four centuries - contains depictions of gender which are 'significantly different to views held today'.

Historian Jeremy Black, author of England In The Age Of Shakespeare, added:

'As the University of Liverpool so aptly but unintentionally notes, the views of some 'on equality, diversity and inclusivity' are unhelpful to an appreciation of national culture.

'Unfortunately, the 'some' include the English Literature department of that university.

The university said:

'Students need to understand the historical context of the texts. This workshop is an opportunity to explore attitudes to, and beliefs about, sex and gender in the late 16th and early 17th centuries - which are in many ways significantly different to views and beliefs held today.

'This is helpful context for understanding a wide range of literary texts from that time. The workshop note on content lets students know that different views on gender and sexual difference will be explored.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416797/Students-warned-Shakespeare-Twelfth-Night-cross-dressing-scenes.html

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Students warned Shakespeare's Twelfth Night has cross-dressing scenes

University of Liverpool cautions that the play - which features cross-dressing characters - contains depictions of gender which are 'significantly different to views held today'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416797/Students-warned-Shakespeare-Twelfth-Night-cross-dressing-scenes.html

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Hedgehogforshort · 28/12/2025 22:34

Yeo Errol we are so fucking well informed tiresome smug feminists

(AKA WITS)

😁

ErrolTheDragon · 28/12/2025 22:31

Cross cross cross-dressing posts, hedgie!Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 28/12/2025 22:30

Oh ffs. Surely they realise that when they were first performed all the Shakespeare plays had ‘cross dressing characters’ because all the women’s parts were played by boys, so the joke in 12th night, and others, was the ‘double cross’ .

Hedgehogforshort · 28/12/2025 22:30

Women were not allowed to appear on stage in the Elizabeth and Jacobean times, and the same was true of both Roman and Greek classics.

Boys often played female roles.

So the joke was cross, cross dressing if you see what i mean in twelfth night.

it is commonly understood that pantomime dames and drag has its origins in the fact women were not permitted to act.

makes me laugh my arse of that the LGBTQ+++++ get very confused about this.

borntobequiet · 28/12/2025 22:22

A University has been told it risks being labelled idiotic

Well said.

Justme56 · 28/12/2025 22:20

IwantToRetire · 28/12/2025 21:56

I am no Shakespeare scholar but surely the plot line has nothing to do with "trans"?

Its about being in disguise .

Or underneath all the being kind intentions of the University, does this mean they think those who say they are trans are just talking about being in disguise. ie saying they are a woman, whilst know they are a man.

It seems that way. I don’t really understand it. Cross dressers exist out of the trans movement anyway so what’s the big deal.

IwantToRetire · 28/12/2025 21:56

I am no Shakespeare scholar but surely the plot line has nothing to do with "trans"?

Its about being in disguise .

Or underneath all the being kind intentions of the University, does this mean they think those who say they are trans are just talking about being in disguise. ie saying they are a woman, whilst know they are a man.

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