Has anyone left their spouse over GC views / pro-Islam stance

Let's ignore the stats that show a big proportion of TIMs in US women's jails are sex offenders.

The hijab is optional? Tell that to 6 year old girls covered in head to toe at primary school on a hot summer's day. The 6 year old isn't the one who choses to be completely covered when the rest of her female classmates aren't, is she? I think you have a naive and romanticised idea in your head. I've seen 5 and 6 year old girls in hijab. Do you genuinely think they made that choice?

I've seem Muslim women completely covered in thick clothing on the beach on a scorching hot day, and the husband is in the water with their children. She is sitting completely covered in black thick clothes on the sand. Are you really asking us to believe she chooses that, and not to be in the water, too?

I'm always eager to learn, and to keep myself safe, but I have never seen any actual evidence that trans women are more dangerous than cis men. So please, go ahead and post a link to the apparent multiple peer reviewed studies or official statistics which prove your point.

Did you even look at the screenshots? It SAYS on them EXACTLY where they're from!!!

Except the Trans Ideology is targeting (mainly autistic) children, and encouraging gay children to chemically sterilise themselves. It is actually happening. That's the truth. Where it wasn't with the gay community.

I asked for peer reviewed studies and official statistics. You have given screenshots with no indication of where they came from.

Do you understand why I asked for official, verifiable facts? It's very easy to be taken in by infographics, but that doesn't mean they are actually accurate or are presenting statistics in a responsible way. It's easy to believe things we already believe, and easy to not actually check facts when the information given supports our view.

Can you give any actual, accurate facts (that aren't screenshots of tweets)?

UK and US:

None of that is relevant to what I have said. The basic form of homophobia (they're perverted!, it's unnatural!, it's dangerous!, they want to indoctrinate our kids with their gay ideology!) is carrying through to the transphobic ideology that we see today.

If a random gay man or other people on the internet happen to be transphobic, it doesn't change that.

Forgot to add that this is not 'Gay 2.0'. Gay people took nothing from women and girls. That there, is the difference. Here, from a gay man himself:

I'm always eager to learn, and to keep myself safe, but I have never seen any actual evidence that trans women are more dangerous than cis men. So please, go ahead and post a link to the apparent multiple peer reviewed studies or official statistics which prove your point.

I'm always eager to learn, and to keep myself safe, but I have never seen any actual evidence that trans women are more dangerous than cis men. So please, go ahead and post a link to the apparent multiple peer reviewed studies or official statistics which prove your point.

No one is assuming that about all transgender people.

We are saying MALES are all potentially dangerous. This does not change if that male is wearing a dress (in fact, evidence over 4 countries shows transwomen commit sexual offences 5 times higher than other males). You appear to think it does. So yes, you do appear to think that calling a male a transgender is relabeling them.

At no stage would I ever accuse someone of being transphobic for supporting women's rights (I support women's rights myself!), so I'm unsure why you chose to say that.

I didn't mention people who support women's rights, I mentioned people who are transphobic, which is a different thing.

Assuming all transgender people are somehow dangerous or perverted is transphobic (much in the same way that people used to have 'genuine concerns' about gay people when it was actually just simple homophobia).

It's just not accurate to say that calling someone transgender is 'relabeling' males.

You realise that while many women are Catholic, very, very, very few are nuns, right? And women who are not nun don't wear the habit?

So the comparison doesn't even work.

At no stage would I ever accuse someone of being transphobic for supporting women's rights (I support women's rights myself!), so I'm unsure why you chose to say that.

I didn't mention people who support women's rights, I mentioned people who are transphobic, which is a different thing.

Assuming all transgender people are somehow dangerous or perverted is transphobic (much in the same way that people used to have 'genuine concerns' about gay people when it was actually just simple homophobia).

It's just not accurate to say that calling someone transgender is 'relabeling' males.

Supporting WOMENS RIGHTS does not mean we "don't like" 'transgender' people. Believing fully intact males should not be in womens changing rooms does not mean we "don't like" 'transgender' people.

We all know males. We don't need to get to know males to know they shouldn't be in female only safe spaces, in our rape crisis centres, in our sports etc.

You know, you don't get to relabel males as 'transgender' and think that gives them the right to violate female only boundaries and spaces.

I've met a fair few nuns who would be better very surprised to hear that they no longer wear the habit. It's not compulsory, but they still choose it.

Is their choice valid to you? Or would you tell them they are they subjugated and forced to cover their hair? Would you accept their reasoning, or would you tell them they don't know their own minds?

Always with the nuns...

Nuns stopped wearing the habit in the 1960s after Vatican 2. Christianity has evolved and modernised. Islam doesn't, and it stays the same.

Right. So you don't like Muslims and transgender people. Unfortunately for you, this doesn't mean that you get to decide that anyone who doesn't subscribe to your views are 'anti-woman'. It's simply not logical to decide anyone who won't automatically discriminate against a person for your reasons doesn't like or respect women.

Have you ever known a woman who wore a hijab, or a trans person? Have you ever considered that their lives may be more complex and nuanced than your opinions?

It's possible to be wary of the harms of radical religion without deciding all members of that religion are harmful. It's possible to respect transgender people without assuming that they are all harmful or are somehow trying to erase women with their existence.

The things that you are saying are not reasonable fears, they are bigotry and unfounded hatred.

I understand that in some contexts women are treated unfairly, and that should absolutely be criticised. But saying that wearing the hijab automatically means women are worth less than men is a huge generalisation and doesn’t reflect the reality I see.

I personally know many hijab-wearing women who are respected, educated, financially independent, and treated no less favourably than their male family members. For them, the hijab is a choice tied to faith and identity, not a symbol of inferiority.

The generalisation in your viewpoint is actually quite damaging too.

The hijab is optional? Tell that to 6 year old girls covered in head to toe at primary school on a hot summer's day. The 6 year old isn't the one who choses to be completely covered when the rest of her female classmates aren't, is she? I think you have a naive and romanticised idea in your head. I've seen 5 and 6 year old girls in hijab. Do you genuinely think they made that choice?

I've seem Muslim women completely covered in thick clothing on the beach on a scorching hot day, and the husband is in the water with their children. She is sitting completely covered in black thick clothes on the sand. Are you really asking us to believe she chooses that, and not to be in the water, too?

b) started being some kind of anti trans activist I would leave.

Yet if he became some kind of anti women activist you would stay?

Well ur certainly not wearing it so why become sad with something you dont wear.
You are making assumptions that we are forced to wear and our husbands superglue to it our heads before pummelling it into us that we are haram sluts without it. Hahaha.

What about nuns, they look fab dont you think