Has anyone left their spouse over GC views / pro-Islam stance

Yes thanks for clarifying that and I appreciate it @Greyskybluesky ❤️

Because I see it more than just hair. I see it as beauty. And some Muslim women in Africa who have short almost bald hair still cover.
All Women can see my hair.
My husband, my father, father in law, grandfather, grandfather in law, maternal uncles and paternal uncles, my nephews and my brothers can see my hair, young cousins but not older cousins can see my hair, young kids can see my hair.

Its also about not showing your figure too. Men are attracted to women, if a man sees a nice good looking lady hes going to turn his head. Its all about protecting your beauty from unwanted glances and stares or awful men trying to chat you up.

For some reason @ThatBlackCat is missing out the rules for women that are in the new testament

Eph 5:22-23 " Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. "

1 Tim 2:9-12 "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

1Pe 3:1-3 " Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives.While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel."

Col 3:18 " Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. "

1 Cor 14:34-35 "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. "

There is more, but I will tag this bit on here, because it's about head covering.

1 Cor 11:5 " But every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven."

And of course, re the OT rules, Jesus himself mentioned that in Matt 5:18 " For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

So that was Jesus saying the Mosaic law still stands. What fulfilled means ? No idea.

So the NT is totally clear, women are to be silent, be obedient to their husbands, and cover their head when they prey.

Just because many Christians of today choose to ignore what is written in the NT, it does not mean the rules are not written there.

All verses I quoted are from the KJV.

And no, this is not a chatGPT post. I am ex Christian and have a bible app to cut and paste from.

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@KitWyn
”I've lived in London for over 2 decades. I've seen an Orthodox Jewish man/group of men in public only a dozen or so times. Never a woman. Which is, of course, a red flag itself.”

That’s weird, and makes me think that you’re expecting Charedi women to be wearing different clothes than they are - so you didn’t recognise them. They tend to be the ones who work - the men are often studying - and there’s no ‘you shouldn’t go out unless a man is with you’.

Are you able to say a bit more about why you don't want people outside your family seeing your hair @Judgejudysno1fan ? I'd genuinely like to understand more about that viewpoint. To me it's just...hair. But it has more significance than that for you?

(I'm asking in good faith, for the purpose of learning something. I'm not being goady like some on this thread)

If you convert to islam for a man, not from your heart and own beliefs then shes not a true Muslim.
I reverted after learning from my husband and felt it in my heart thats what I wanted. I was Christian before but lost my interest in the church as I couldn't fathom worshipping jesus who God created. Not the other way round or how he can be God and son of God. I beleived in one God , one creator, one lord.

Youre right to say no one should impose their religion but its also good to share knowledge and learn similarities and differences. For example Muslims believe in Jesus and mother Mary. And we love jesus as a mighty prophet. And we beleive in his miraculous birth and his second coming and the miracles which he performed through God's will.

I wear hijab. For the reasons being : God said to do so, in the quran and the old Testament. I believe in a lot of verses that mirror the old ans new Testament and quran and i wont have anyone tell me otherwise.
Secondly, I dont want any man outside my husbans and family regardless of who they are to see my hair, neck and chest. I really dont.

I dont care if anyone thinks im.opressed. really couldn't give a monkeys bananas. I love hijab and my non Muslim family and friends comment on how pretty my scarves are and that they suit me. And if a nun covers her hair ,and someone said shes opressed I wouldn't be happy with that either. I dont see myself lesser than my husband. I dont cover because men cant control themselves. I cover simply because I don't want any one seeing my hair, if they're Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh, atheist, Muslim, whatever. Im happy. My husband actually never once asked or told me to wear the hijab and I did it off my own back ine year after reverting to islam. Thats really it.

Ok so just forget the old Testament? Chuck that out it doesn't matter anymore? Really? The ten commandments are over ridden by the new Testament? Wow.

I haven't read all the comments. I think it's probably very common over the course of a long relationship for political views to diverge somewhat. I don't think it's essential for two people to agree on everything in a relationship but I think agreeing to disagree is probably the best solution rather than trying to change someone else's mind.

If you care about women's rights, safety and freedoms, then it's very logical to be opposed to:

• adult males (however they identify) using women-only spaces, and
• misogynistic religious practices

Islam is much larger in number in the UK, than the (also awful, misogynistic and controlling) Orthodox Judaism. Hence people's primary focus on Islam.

I've lived in London for over 2 decades. I've seen an Orthodox Jewish man/group of men in public only a dozen or so times. Never a woman. Which is, of course, a red flag itself.

But I see multiple women in hijabs (often with floor-sweeping baggy black tunics) on a daily basis in central Westminster. In nearby Edgware Road and Paddington, women in full face-covering burqas are very common.

No woman should be required to shroud herself in fabric in order to be 'modest' and not inflame men's 'uncontrollable lusts'. It is regressive, depressing and insulting.

I live in Ireland and used to see the occasional nun wearing a habit in the 1980s. I dont’t see any nowadays. There is a house near me with 3 nuns working in the parish and they just wear ordinary clothes.

I don’t agree with your views at all OP but I think that can almost be put to one side to get to the heart of what you’re asking - should partners agree on these sorts of things? I think for me it does matter. DH and I don’t agree on absolutely everything (for example he is more GC than me) but we are able to have good-natured conversation about things and our views aren’t fundamentally opposed. I think if we did disagree completely on big issues like gender and race, that would make our relationship extremely difficult.

I haven't said that women should or shouldn't be nice
Erm.. yes, I know. That was kind of the point.
It's usually what's said on here. Double standards, seemingly ok from you when it's against viewpoints/posters you don't agree with.

Your posts were patronising and rude - sounds pretty tone policing. Was just saying that the usual "women don't have to be nice" stance doesn't seem to apply today.

You seem to be on a different thread, @BoxesBoxesEverywhere- I haven’t said that women should or shouldn’t be “nice”. I made an observation about the specific posts another poster was making, as is my right. I’ll leave you to it as you clearly want an argument and have a bee in your bonnet about FWR.

The poster I was quoting was "scolding" for patronising and rude. Not you?
What happened to "women don't have to be nice?"

I will say there is quite an interesting discussion about these figures on the author’s website, where the workings are shown in detail and links are available to the data for anyone who wants to check the sources.

https://scientificparentofatranskid.substack.com/p/fact-check-rates-of-sexual-offending

I agree and I’m wasting no more time on it.

She did give sources! They are census and MoJ or US gov sources, and the authors of the infographics’ posts are linked! Why are you misrepresenting her posts now?

I tend to read the official gov sites myself.

Noone here is trying to trick you. Look for yourself.

Put this into Google and have a read:

trans women prisoners uk stats offences

Statistics presented without any source given, and therefore no context as to whether they are appropriate in support of her opinion.

You've made all manner of assumptions about me, simply because I've asked for evidence based information and actual sources, and the end result is akin to "look it up yourself". Ok.

Er, no. Are you?

These stats are so readily available (notwithstanding just using one's own brain for a nanosecond) that arguing the opposite at this stage is a complete own-goal.

Just Google it.

Or think.

We appear to have drifted away from the subject. Yes, OP should leave her husband.

And your posts to @ThatBlackCat were patronising and rude

Are we tone policing now?

And your posts to @ThatBlackCat were patronising and rude, you said she had just posted a “picture” as if it was a picture of her cat, rather then statistics presented in an infographic format.