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So changing your "gender" is fine, but changing your accent is *weird*...

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Taupeness · 22/12/2025 10:04

If you want a laugh amongst the stress of getting ready for Christmas, then can I point you to this thread on trans Reddit which asks the question:

so im british and have had a british accent my whole life, but it has been causing me a lot of dysphoria recently. im amab and non binary and i want to have a male-sounding voice but for it to be softer and have a more feminine tone (i cant really explain it that well), and i can only really do that voice well while using an american accent. so is it okay to change my accent and if so would other people who already know me be weirded out by it?

The answers are comedy gold. Because changing your "gender(s)" is cool, obvs, but changing your accent is weird 😆

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1psn646/is_it_okay_to_change_my_accent/

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fashionqueen0123 · 24/12/2025 09:19

All they need to do is switch ‘American’ for ‘woman’ in their replies

Taupeness · 24/12/2025 09:15

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/12/2025 07:18

When are we going to fit in Goldsmiths Student Union?

Just after our annual Magdalen Berns Memorial quidditch match 🏆

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/12/2025 07:18

When are we going to fit in Goldsmiths Student Union?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/12/2025 05:33

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/12/2025 02:19

It might clash with the planned Kiwi farms mixer.

I'd suggest a later slot, but the Communist Party of Britain Mulled Wine And Mince Pies is then.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/12/2025 02:19

ArabellaSaurus · 22/12/2025 16:43

For Christmas, will we invite Reddit over here?

It might clash with the planned Kiwi farms mixer.

Taupeness · 23/12/2025 13:11

Oh yes @ProfessorLadyDrKeenovay , you must never ever mention transracialism because something something completely different! 🙄

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ProfessorLadyDrKeenovay · 23/12/2025 12:04

Remember the roasting Hilaria Baldwin got for pretending to be Spanish and forgetting the English for cucumber, because she'd been to Spain on holiday? Or Rachel Dolezal presenting as black?

Genderists get annoyed when you bring up examples of "identity hoaxers", because they say that people pretending to be from a different culture or race has nothing in common with gender identity, which emanates from a deep inner authentic wellspring.

However they have everything in common - they're just very inconvenient, because the public clearly view these examples as ludicrous and the people involved become laughing stocks.

Of course the stories behind the front pages are more complex and interesting - Helen Lewis did a good article exploring this, which contains the marvellous phrase (not hers), "Munchausen by internet".

"The Identity Hoaxers: What if people don’t just invent medical symptoms to get attention—what if they feign oppression, too?"
Helen Lewis, The Atlantic, 16 March 2021
archive.ph/KQp4X

Abhannmor · 23/12/2025 11:10

UtopiaPlanitia · 23/12/2025 02:54

😂

If I'm watching GAA on TG4 and the commentator is from Munster, I haven't a mission when it comes to understand anything 😳 To me, Munster Gaeilge almost sounds like a dialect of Welsh.

To be honest, Donegal/Uladh Gaeilge leaves me fairly clueless as well, as does the dialect taught in the Belfast Gaeltacht. At school, I learned from teachers speaking three different dialects, as well as learning An Caighdeán Oifigiúil, and my Mam taught me at home too from her schoolbooks that used the old Irish alphabet (which made more sense to me than modern spellings). So I have the most mixed up pronunciation and spelling going 😒 Duolingo is not helping things get any better - that bloody Ulcabhán haunts me.

The Ulcabhán gives me Catholic guilt . Or Protestant work ethic vibes. I've paused it for a while. I'll just have to do an immersion course. Osna mór...

SerendipityJane · 23/12/2025 09:52

Ericaequites · 23/12/2025 06:33

As an American with a Swamp Yankee accent (a Boston accent’s country cousin), I find the whole idea of a monolithic American accent funny in the extreme. I’m vehemently non-rhotic, driving a cah, and rhyming the Latin puella with cellar. My Oxford First Latin teacher couldn’t stand it, visibly wincing at times. Most trans women sound like Valley Girls with constant rising intonation.

But, to quote the Izzster

"We say 'herbs' because there's a fucking 'H' in it"

SquirrelosaurusSoShiny · 23/12/2025 09:41

We really need the laugh reaction back because I miss being able to laugh at jokes 😂

BezMills · 23/12/2025 09:39

Linguistics "the schwa is an unvoiced vowel sound, and is the shortest vowel"

Kiwis : the schwa isn't ivin in thi tup five bru

SerendipityJane · 23/12/2025 09:28

Charlottian · 23/12/2025 05:50

Or this from the Lonely Planet guide circa 1999…
NZ—Fush and Chups
Aus—Fiish and chiips
I love the NZ accent. From watching Shortland Street (anyone else remember it?) “Munnie…Mun!” (someone’s daughter was called Minnie).

I rule of thumb I picked up in travelling, was if you hear an "Australian" accent, you are safer to assume it's actually NZ. This was told to me by a New Zealander on safari in the Masai Mara when I asked if they were Australian. They were very gracious and commented that given how little there is to do in NZ, they are more likely to travel than Australians.

Amusing or not, I did then notice that for a while every "Australian" in Earls Court was actually a New Zealander.

And Ireland may be a small island, but I am trying to think of a corner of the world where I haven't met someone from the Island.

Taupeness · 23/12/2025 07:32

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/12/2025 04:32

For a football game in no man's land?

No man's land?

Literal genocide!! 😆

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Ericaequites · 23/12/2025 06:33

As an American with a Swamp Yankee accent (a Boston accent’s country cousin), I find the whole idea of a monolithic American accent funny in the extreme. I’m vehemently non-rhotic, driving a cah, and rhyming the Latin puella with cellar. My Oxford First Latin teacher couldn’t stand it, visibly wincing at times. Most trans women sound like Valley Girls with constant rising intonation.

Charlottian · 23/12/2025 05:50

YourMotherSortsSocksInHell · 22/12/2025 20:50

@Cailleach1

Ask them to say "Amphetamines". Australians sound like Unphutemynes, NZ like eenfeeteemeens.

I learned this from watching Border Force.

Or this from the Lonely Planet guide circa 1999…
NZ—Fush and Chups
Aus—Fiish and chiips
I love the NZ accent. From watching Shortland Street (anyone else remember it?) “Munnie…Mun!” (someone’s daughter was called Minnie).

RabbitFurCoat · 23/12/2025 05:28

ProfessorBinturong · 22/12/2025 20:19

My Japanese teacher was Polish, and she was surprised when we got to the word for bread and I said that at least that one would be easy to remember. Pan makes perfect sense to someone familiar with French pain/Latin panis; less so to someone who thinks of it as chleb.

Similarly, knowing arigato meant I had no trouble remembering obrigado. There are links everywhere when you start looking.

Now getting a different choir flashback, to singing panis angelicus...

RabbitFurCoat · 23/12/2025 05:26

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 22/12/2025 16:48

I often think about these mens voices, no matter what they do they will never ever have a the tiniest chance of hitting a top C. a la Queen of the Night. Lots of women may not be able to but we all have the possibility, and one can always try squeaking it.
They will never have our voices no matter what they try.

Flashback to my school choir days! I could hit it but it wasn't good. 😁

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/12/2025 04:32

ArabellaSaurus · 22/12/2025 16:43

For Christmas, will we invite Reddit over here?

For a football game in no man's land?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 23/12/2025 04:30

Taupeness · 22/12/2025 16:20

what i mean is that i dont think the voice i want is accessible with a british accent, not that i specifically cant do the voice i want in a british accent (if that makes sense)

Make it make sense 😜

(Yes I know that's impossible 😆)

The very definition of someone with way too much time on their hands.

I mean, there's navel gazing and then there's whatever this is.

UtopiaPlanitia · 23/12/2025 02:54

Abhannmor · 22/12/2025 18:27

That's me at our Comhrá in the library @UtopiaPlanitia . To the despair of the other Irish language lovers. But I can't help it .....these fascinating - to me - links pop into my head when we are doing a crosfhocal or reading a novel. Stop dissecting it , just read it they plead.

So we diverged from P Celtic ? Often wondered which way round it was. Now which Gaeilge dialect would be best for a non binary person? I'm going with Uladh because of the rising inflections at the end of sentence hi!

( Running way in Munster Irish....)

😂

If I'm watching GAA on TG4 and the commentator is from Munster, I haven't a mission when it comes to understand anything 😳 To me, Munster Gaeilge almost sounds like a dialect of Welsh.

To be honest, Donegal/Uladh Gaeilge leaves me fairly clueless as well, as does the dialect taught in the Belfast Gaeltacht. At school, I learned from teachers speaking three different dialects, as well as learning An Caighdeán Oifigiúil, and my Mam taught me at home too from her schoolbooks that used the old Irish alphabet (which made more sense to me than modern spellings). So I have the most mixed up pronunciation and spelling going 😒 Duolingo is not helping things get any better - that bloody Ulcabhán haunts me.

JanesLittleGirl · 22/12/2025 22:57

Accents are almost guesswork for Estuary English and other big conurbation speakers. Not only are they unable to guess which southwestern county I come from, they are just as likely to think that I have an East Anglian accent. But, to be fair, I can't tell someone from Milton Keynes from someone from Canterbury. The only time that I have been freaked out is when a Danish guy told me that he couldn't tell if I was from Dorchester or Bournemouth.

YourMotherSortsSocksInHell · 22/12/2025 20:50

@Cailleach1

Ask them to say "Amphetamines". Australians sound like Unphutemynes, NZ like eenfeeteemeens.

I learned this from watching Border Force.

Cailleach1 · 22/12/2025 20:29

SionnachRuadh · 22/12/2025 13:17

English people often have strange ideas of what Irish accents sound like. I've had waiters in London ask me if I'm American. Cheeky bastards.

I’ve been asked if I’m Canadian. Mind you, when young I was asked if I was Danish. When I chat a bit more, they get the accent though.

OH usually gets asked if he is German, or sometimes American. This had happened in a bit of an unfriendly way when we were in Crete. So, before we returned to Greece, I got him a nice Ireland jersey. A little shamrock insignia and all. Interestingly, it didn’t really do the job as Panathinaikos (Athenian football club) use the blasted shamrock as their emblem too. Their nickname is ‘To Trifylli“ (The Shamrock).

I think it is just that Ireland has a small population, so people meet those from the big countries more frequently. There is no excuse for a native English speaker though. However, I must confess I can’t really tell NZ and Aus accents apart.

ProfessorBinturong · 22/12/2025 20:19

UtopiaPlanitia · 22/12/2025 17:14

I love reading about language evolution.

I speak very basic Gaeilge (Irish) and I know a few basic words & phrases in Gaelic, Welsh and Hindi too. And I was very pleased to find out, when I was picking it up, that Hindi has quite a few basic words in common with the three Celtic languages.

Although, Hindi seems to have more in common with Welsh because Welsh is a P Celtic language and kept more of the original Proto-Celtic language sounds. Whereas Gaeilge and Gaelic are Q Celtic because those languages modified those particular sounds. And then away back in the mists of time, Proto-Celtic would have developed from Proto-Indo-European as would Hindi.

I bore poor DH to death with this stuff 😬

https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780199772810/obo-9780199772810-0115.xml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4328733.stm

My Japanese teacher was Polish, and she was surprised when we got to the word for bread and I said that at least that one would be easy to remember. Pan makes perfect sense to someone familiar with French pain/Latin panis; less so to someone who thinks of it as chleb.

Similarly, knowing arigato meant I had no trouble remembering obrigado. There are links everywhere when you start looking.

nietzscheanvibe · 22/12/2025 20:08

DeanElderberry · 22/12/2025 18:23

Not really, people do have accents. Nobody 'has' a gender.

Which makes the fact that they think you can "change" it, ridiculous, no?