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City of London says Sex Matters "out of time" and has "no standing" re Hapstead Ponds

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IwantToRetire · 19/12/2025 20:40

On 17th December there was a full-day permission hearing in our case against the City of London over the Hampstead ponds. A decision on whether the case can go forward is expected in January.
The permission hearing was held because the City of London, rather than defend the lawfulness of its policy of allowing men into the women’s pond, is trying to put up procedural barriers to the policy even being questioned.

It says that our claim is out of time because it has been following a gender self-ID policy since 2017. At the same time, it argues that our claim is premature because it is planning to change the policy for the Hampstead ponds next year following a consultation. It also argues that Sex Matters doesn’t have standing and that instead of answering our claim, individual women should bear the burden of bringing cases.
We say that this kind of squirming shouldn’t allow the City of London to duck and dive its way out of defending its policy and complying with the Equality Act.

If it is confident that its policy based on gender identity is lawful and doesn’t result in sex discrimination or harassment, it should defend that policy. It is in everyone’s interest to understand whether it is lawful to provide a service for women that includes men with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

Full article at https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/sex-and-the-city-of-london/

City of London says Sex Matters "out of time" and has "no standing" re Hapstead Ponds
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Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 20/12/2025 05:46

When multiple organisation subscribe to this ideology you really begin to wonder why women are so hated.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 20/12/2025 05:40

It says that our claim is out of time because it has been following a gender self-ID policy since 2017

Then why when women declared they were men did they call the coppers out to eject them from the men's pool.

I think in the end it comes down to a power trip, the CoL don't like having their authority challenged, they're digging in to show who's got the power and who doesn't. It's not about right or wrong but who's in charge and who isn't.

IwantToRetire · 20/12/2025 01:57

How can it be out of time?

I think this is scrapping the barrel to find an arguement to stop it going to trial as they aren't confident.

Anyway its a stupid arguement because obviously this year we have the Supreme Court ruling which I assume is as much part of the rationale for raising it now.

And given the Supreme Court ruling even if they are having a consultaion, the options offered would have to apply the ruling that single sex means biological fact.

But am still nervous as to the outcome of this hearing, which will be announced next week.

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NebulousSupportPostcard · 20/12/2025 00:18

How can it be out of time? What's wrong with them?

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Screamingabdabz · 19/12/2025 22:56

Yes what is the agenda here? Everyone knows that people can’t change sex. It’s baffling. Unless it’s just plain old fashioned women-hating misogny? Yes that’ll be it.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 19/12/2025 22:53

As long as I live I think I will NEVER understand why so many people are so committed to allowing men into women only spaces.
I mean, I know why AGP men want this but why are so many others backing it up? So many women too. I cannot get my head around it.

StupidHappyClocks · 19/12/2025 21:28

Didn’t they have a consultation recently? I’d like to know how many people responded and what the flavour of those responses was, because I know many, MANY women who responded and absolutely handed their arses to them.

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