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HW live on LBC at 4pm 11 Dec

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 10:03

Apparently she can't wait to hear from us!

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Ddakji · 11/12/2025 16:50

Diosmonet · 11/12/2025 16:48

Why? Tom Swarbrick is such a right wing shill.

This board baffles me in their double standards.

Give me James O'Brien to protect my rights and those of my dd's over the likes of TW any day!!!!

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James O-Brien doesn’t know what social contagion is. He’s an ignorant patronising moron in this issue. Whereas it sounds like this man Tom has done his homework and knows what he’s talking about.

This shouldn’t be anything to do with politics, it’s not a left or right issue, it’s a huge child abuse and medical scandal.

The only people who make it about politics are those on the left annoyed that the left is so weak on this, or those playing purity politics.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:50

Tom: Where is the big study then?

HW: WPATH 8

Tom: Number of studies is low on PBs and their reversibility

HW: Argues with him, says they are reversible, seems to be losing her temper with Tom

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Toseland · 11/12/2025 16:50

Well done Tom, he's got the WPATH docs on his desk!

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:48

HW: Dutch study - doesn't really answer Tom's question

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Diosmonet · 11/12/2025 16:48

deadpan · 11/12/2025 13:38

Who's hosting? Hopefully not James O'Brien

Why? Tom Swarbrick is such a right wing shill.

This board baffles me in their double standards.

Give me James O'Brien to protect my rights and those of my dd's over the likes of TW any day!!!!

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:47

Tom asks a Q about sex on birth certificate.

Caller: I'm a teacher, I've seen children mistaken about gender identity all the time. How do you ACTUALLY know they want to be what they say they want to be? They change their minds all the time.

HW: Sounds sceptical.... Look at the research of people who change their mind, by far the majority of children carry on

Tom: It comes to the issue of consent. How do we know the child is aware of what they're consenting to?

HW: It's no different from treatment for a broken arm, heart surgery - children give consent for these

Tom: Lists infertility, irreversible outcomes, can children understand this?

HW: PB effects are all completely reversible. Look at the science. The good thing is you can revisit every 3 months.

Tom: Study on your website by Dutch Defries (?) not a randomised trial, no control group. Blockers can't be credited for any improvements.

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Toseland · 11/12/2025 16:47

Grrrr, how can they be reversible - you can't go back in time!

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 16:46

Tom's done his homework

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:42

I'm not sure what this caller is talking about, I think she's in support of Gender GP?

Caller's child was born a girl, presents as a boy. Caller said no to PBs to child aged 11.

HW: What difference would it have made to him if he's had them?

Caller: Wouldn't have lost his confidence

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NotInMyyName · 11/12/2025 16:40

Oooh speaking over a caller despite him pointing out that SHE will not let him speak. Bit of a car crash. So prickly.
Is there no media training?

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BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 16:40

Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:35

Do you think so? She's all over the place

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People who haven't been following the issues may.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:39

Caller: Do you think it's acceptable to give kids PBs when they can't make decisions for themselves about smoking etc. It's coercion from adults putting ideas in kids heads.

HW: How many trans kids have you met?

Caller: None but I have 4 kids.

HW: If you haven't met a trans kid you don't understand. Do you think kids are too young to make medical decisions?

Caller: This is different though.

HW talks all over him.

Caller: Stop butting in! Let me talk!! It is coercion!

HW: Let me talk about the beauty of being transgender! Listen to the kids! It's the same as what we said in the 80s when kids said they were gay!

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murasaki · 11/12/2025 16:36

Even trans reddit think she's a liability these days and have requested she shut up.

corlan · 11/12/2025 16:35

Her bedside manner needs working on. She's so prickly and resistant to opposing views.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:35

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 16:34

This is shocking! People will believe her!

Do you think so? She's all over the place

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Toseland · 11/12/2025 16:35

Very vague about who is working at Gender GP and their qualifications!

Waitingfordoggo · 11/12/2025 16:35

Sorry, I see others already made the same point as me 😂

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 16:34

This is shocking! People will believe her!

Waitingfordoggo · 11/12/2025 16:34

Latest caller asked HW to point to some peer reviewed studies that show that loss of estrogen won’t cause early osteoporosis in trans-identifying girls and women. HW says there is no such study that she knows of.

Caller says: ‘This seems unethical to me’

HW: ‘Yes well you’re not medically trained so you don’t get to have an opinion on medical ethics. Leave that to the experts.’

Um ok Helen but the experts haven’t managed to produce any evidence that these treatments are safe 😂

Toseland · 11/12/2025 16:34

Listening now. She's a garbled mess.

LocalHobo · 11/12/2025 16:33

How dare Tom quote "experts" who don't agree with HW !?!?!!

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:33

exwhyzed · 11/12/2025 16:32

Caller asks a good question about long term side effects. HW denies this is a problem.

Caller asks for evidence. HW says that there isn't any she is aware of but she's medically qualified and the caller isn't. So that's that.

That caller said up front she wasn't a medic. Helen cooes at her "oooh that's fine, that's fine"

Caller asks a medical question. Helen snaps at her "you're not a medic!!"

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exwhyzed · 11/12/2025 16:32

Caller asks a good question about long term side effects. HW denies this is a problem.

Caller asks for evidence. HW says that there isn't any she is aware of but she's medically qualified and the caller isn't. So that's that.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:32

Caller: what impact will this have on things like bone density esp. for women?

HW: Explains osteoporosis. Basically says their bones will be okay and strong (??)

Caller: Point me to the research please! Where is the research?

HW: I'm not sure that study exists.

Caller: I don't think it's ethical.

HW: Well you're not a medic. Leave it to the experts please!

Tom: Who are the experts?

I missed exactly what Tom's expert evidence was, but HW doesn't like it anyway!

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tartyflette · 11/12/2025 16:31

How on earth did this person get through med school?
i know she doesn’t practice medicine now, but she has done in the past.

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