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Greyskybluesky · 2025-12-11T10:03:06+00:00

Apparently she can't wait to hear from us!

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:48

NewYearNewNameWhoKnew · 11/12/2025 17:36

Did HW really say that she's not responsible for her company prescribing a life threatening testosterone overdose to an anorexic child? It's her company - she literally is responsible for everything it does.

I can't remember the exact wording of that bit but I'll go back and find it. She basically sounded like an exasperated manager who can't be responsible for everything her employees get up to!

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:43

That is tedious purity politics to say that if a right wing journo discusses an issue that the left should be good on but have chosen not to be, it’s a dog whistle. The right have simply walked into the colossal open goal the left stupidly placed in their path.

Absolutely this @Ddakji
The left could talk about it if they wanted to but they don't. And I thought TS was neutral when talking to HW, he was coming out with facts and evidence but not personal opinion.

I couldn’t give a fuck who is asking the questions that need to be asked.

Exactly.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:42

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Ddakji · 11/12/2025 17:40

Diosmonet · 11/12/2025 17:08

He isn't a patronising moron. I find him hugely compassionate on many issues.

Perhaps he needs to catch-up... Though I suspect he avoids it.

But, TS is very right wing and I heard him giving this attention as dog whistle journalism. He is far less inclined to understanding, in any sincere way, over someone like JOB.

Again. I would rather my safety in the hands of JOB over someone like TS.

It IS a political issue. Deny it all you wish. The likes of Trump and Farage wouldn't weaponise it otherwise.

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That is tedious purity politics to say that if a right wing journo discusses an issue that the left should be good on but have chosen not to be, it’s a dog whistle. The right have simply walked into the colossal open goal the left stupidly placed in their path. I don’t know this presenter but it sounds like he knew his stuff and held HW’s feet to the fire in a way that I know for a fact JO’B couldn’t and wouldn’t do. The fact that JO’B wouldn’t and couldn’t says much more that is negative about him that TS doing a good job says about TS.

I couldn’t give a fuck who is asking the questions that need to be asked. I only hope that more people stop being such cowardly weaklings and keep on asking these questions.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:37

Dr Stephanie Cook: This is an unregulated organisation, not regulated by any UK body.

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NewYearNewNameWhoKnew · 11/12/2025 17:36

Did HW really say that she's not responsible for her company prescribing a life threatening testosterone overdose to an anorexic child? It's her company - she literally is responsible for everything it does.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:36

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:34

Hmm. Strictly speaking I don't think it was revoked, just not renewed because she couldn't/wouldn't get revalidated.

Ah right, thanks! I was searching for the right word and I thought I'd probably got it wrong!

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ColdOut2025 · 11/12/2025 17:35

Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:32

Tom: We're now going to talk about some of HW's claims with a medical doctor who hasn't had his licence revoked

(ouch!)

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Wow!!! That's epic!

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:34

Hmm. Strictly speaking I don't think it was revoked, just not renewed because she couldn't/wouldn't get revalidated.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:32

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:31

Real doctor up next!

Tom: We're now going to talk about some of HW's claims with a medical doctor who hasn't had his licence revoked

(ouch!)

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BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:31

Real doctor up next!

Skyellaskerry · 11/12/2025 17:30

Diosmonet · 11/12/2025 17:08

He isn't a patronising moron. I find him hugely compassionate on many issues.

Perhaps he needs to catch-up... Though I suspect he avoids it.

But, TS is very right wing and I heard him giving this attention as dog whistle journalism. He is far less inclined to understanding, in any sincere way, over someone like JOB.

Again. I would rather my safety in the hands of JOB over someone like TS.

It IS a political issue. Deny it all you wish. The likes of Trump and Farage wouldn't weaponise it otherwise.

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I get where you’re coming from, I agree with JOB on many many things but not when he ventures down gender conversations. Same as Natasha Devon on LBC. I am at odds with TS on many issues and he is more than annoying on pensions. But I am with him on the stance and questions he asks on gender.

It is painful to be a pretty left wing, life long (except last time) Labour voter to find myself with Tory politicians in Scotland and England, on this issue. Never thought I’d see the day I would be agreeing with Kemi on this when I don’t on most of her other policies. It should not be a left vs right issue. It is what left me politically homeless and spoiling my balllot last time.

FuckOffMadison · 11/12/2025 17:29

Diosmonet · 11/12/2025 17:08

He isn't a patronising moron. I find him hugely compassionate on many issues.

Perhaps he needs to catch-up... Though I suspect he avoids it.

But, TS is very right wing and I heard him giving this attention as dog whistle journalism. He is far less inclined to understanding, in any sincere way, over someone like JOB.

Again. I would rather my safety in the hands of JOB over someone like TS.

It IS a political issue. Deny it all you wish. The likes of Trump and Farage wouldn't weaponise it otherwise.

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So what was wrong in TS's handling of it today? Did he not use the right tone with HW?

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:20

I'm hanging on to hear what the "qualified doctor" says

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ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 11/12/2025 17:15

Thanks to all of you who took one for the team

Diosmonet · 11/12/2025 17:08

Ddakji · 11/12/2025 16:50

James O-Brien doesn’t know what social contagion is. He’s an ignorant patronising moron in this issue. Whereas it sounds like this man Tom has done his homework and knows what he’s talking about.

This shouldn’t be anything to do with politics, it’s not a left or right issue, it’s a huge child abuse and medical scandal.

The only people who make it about politics are those on the left annoyed that the left is so weak on this, or those playing purity politics.

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He isn't a patronising moron. I find him hugely compassionate on many issues.

Perhaps he needs to catch-up... Though I suspect he avoids it.

But, TS is very right wing and I heard him giving this attention as dog whistle journalism. He is far less inclined to understanding, in any sincere way, over someone like JOB.

Again. I would rather my safety in the hands of JOB over someone like TS.

It IS a political issue. Deny it all you wish. The likes of Trump and Farage wouldn't weaponise it otherwise.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:05

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:03

She advocates puberty blockers AND cross-sex hormones for chiildren. She's a monster!

And an unconvincing one at that.

Tom says a doctor "a qualified one" 😅will be on later to talk further

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Thingybob · 11/12/2025 17:05

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:03

She advocates puberty blockers AND cross-sex hormones for chiildren. She's a monster!

On the say of an 8/9/10 year old who knows what their soul needs

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/12/2025 17:03

She advocates puberty blockers AND cross-sex hormones for chiildren. She's a monster!

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:01

Tom: Thank you for coming in HW. Apologies to all callers that didn't get through (sounds like they had quite a few lined up!)

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 17:00

Caller: You said PBs are reversible. Is that really true?

HW: Basically yes. They switch your testicles and ovaries off.

Caller: Lists a string of studies that says they're not reversible (great moment!)

HW: You need your hormones.

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:58

Caller: What's the link between T and autism?

HW: Just because they have autism they shouldn't be excluded from treatment. Waffles a bit about autism.

Caller: Is it not society's inability to recognise autism?

HW: Waffles a bit about T children not able to get blockers at the mo. Says T is a very different thing to autism.

Tom: Brings up a case of Gender GP and an autistic child. Child J. Too much testosterone. What medical examinations did you undertake?

HW: It's my organisation, but does that make me responsible for every single thing?? Gets massively angry and defensive. I cannot talk about this judgment.

Tom: You're a parent. Wouldn't you want your child to have proper medical care?

HW: I'd want them to have PBs, operations etc yes.

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Toseland · 11/12/2025 16:57

Ooooof "near fatal dose of testosterone"!

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Greyskybluesky · 11/12/2025 16:54

HW: I'm not going to talk to you about leaked files. Gets sarky about the Guardian

Caller: Do you think the Cass review is deeply flawed, left out info, funded by GC movement? The biggest funders are the right wing who don't like trans people. I want to praise you. I think you're a great person.

HW: Coooes at the caller. You've said all the things I'm not able to say. One of those flaws - cherry picking the info.

Tom: Give us more flaws

HW: I've given you one, not discussing it further.

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endofthelinefinally · 11/12/2025 16:54

deadpan · 11/12/2025 16:08

Thanks. Not that I listen to LBC but the clips I've seen him in he seems fairly level headed compared to some of their presenters

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He is excellent at asking all the right questions and is always very well prepared, whatever the topic. He is probably the only LBC presenter I have time for, tbh. Shelagh Fogarty is quite good on some topics, but she does have some blind spots.