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Guide Leader concerns

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GuideParent · 07/12/2025 12:03

My daughter is a Guide so I’ve been following what’s been happening after Girlguiding put out their statement last week.

I’m pretty concerned about the behaviour of some of the leaders. Obviously they are entitled to protest the policy, but surely there are limits about involving the girls in their units to do the same?

There’s a Facebook page I’ve had a look at and leaders seem to be doing things like ordering trans badges for the girls to wear.
I’ve attached a pic of someone in a thread about what to say to parents (I believe she is quoting what she has emailed out to parents) saying they are not allowed to be political, but they are being political Confused

I think Girlguiding themselves have totally brought about this situation with their statement. Rather than it being politically neutral, about the law and recognising that there will be a range of views within the organisation, their statement has taken a clear political pov that this decision is basically wrong but their hands are tied. I feel that leaders have taken their cue from this and have assumed that the view that ‘this is wrong’ is universal among the organisation and among all members. The leaders also seem to have been provided with no further direction about how they should be handing the situation with girls and parents.

Obviously there will be lots of GC parents and prob Guides themselves. Surely leaders marshalling the children in their unit to support a particular political view risks potential lawsuits regarding belief discrimination?

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Namelessnelly · 07/12/2025 13:21

If all these people desperate to include boys in GG are so upset, why not form a new organisation? .just call it Guides and let it be mixed sex. Easy. Everyone gets what they want. I’m betting though a lot of the people sooooo upset don’t want to actually do the work, they’d rather shoehorn boys into GG cos it’s “easier”.

plantcomplex · 07/12/2025 13:19

I think Girlguiding themselves have totally brought about this situation with their statement

I also agree. The Facebook version of the statement had an extra line at the end about standing in solidarity with trans people. They have also sent emails striking a similar tone.

They are absolutely responsible for creating a situation where GC members feel afraid to speak and the gender ideologues feel emboldened to behave so inappropriately.

Twasasurprise · 07/12/2025 13:18

Interesting that there was only one 👍 to their post.

plantcomplex · 07/12/2025 13:13

I would familiarise myself with these policies and then consider making a complaint. The behaviour you describe is inappropriate and puts the organisation at risk.

https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/policies/complaints-policy/

https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/information-for-volunteers/policies/managing-concerns-about-adult-volunteers-policy/

Daleksatemyshed · 07/12/2025 13:01

I think it would be interesting to know how many of the protesting GG leaders have trans DC or DGC, the most vocal adults seem to fall into that category quite often. I suppose they're too busy worrying about their own family to consider the effect on anyone else's DC.

MatronPomfrey · 07/12/2025 12:23

I’ve been shocked at the amount of GG leaders that are angry that boys are no longer allowed to join. Many stating they have non-binary children and numerous transboys have been in their units over recent years. I don’t understand how that haven’t noticed the huge spike in girls trying to identify out of womanhood.
I’m in a facebook group that is arranging protests. Only to keep an eye on what they’re doing and see if there is anything that will affect the area my daughter is in. They’re all so swept up in the belief of transchildren, it’s truly frightening.
My daughter is a guide and there has been nothing from her leaders and nothing mentioned at her group. I’ve been monitoring the situation since she was in Rainbows and all her leaders have been sensible and nothing about gender identity.
I will be emailing GG that I agree that they’re reinforcing the single sex status of GG.

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