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Baroness Falkner: Labour Party has abandoned women and feminism

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Signalbox · 05/12/2025 21:45

“… She has unfinished business, however. Three months ago she submitted, with the support of the board, what she views as her legacy — statutory guidance on how public bodies, businesses and employers should interpret a seismic ruling by the Supreme Court. The ruling, on April 16, clarified that under the Equality Act 2010 the terms “women” and “sex” referred to “biological” sex, not acquired gender.

Since then, however, the guidance has gone nowhere. It is now somewhere in the bowels of the Department for Education, and there is no indication of when it will be published. The EHRC, Falkner says, has been told by the government that it is “all very complex and we need to take our time over it”.

She doesn’t buy it. “We’ve had external counsel, internal counsel, everybody’s looked at it. I mean, I’m so certain of the lawfulness of our code that I don’t think I’ve ever been so certain about anything before,” she says. “The other explanation simply is that they’re terrified of their MPs who would wish for trans self-identification or trans inclusion to prevail across all areas of society, including Section 3 of the Equality Act, and would wish for the exemptions not to exist.” …

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/baroness-falkner-labour-was-the-party-of-feminism-not-any-more-fzgjxswgn

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Baroness Falkner: Labour was the party of feminism — not any more

The former EHRC chairwoman reflects on her work trying to draw the line between women’s rights and trans rights

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/baroness-falkner-labour-was-the-party-of-feminism-not-any-more-fzgjxswgn

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/12/2025 10:39

She’s been such a breath of fresh air. Brave and principled after years of the EHRC selling out women.

TonTonMacoute · 06/12/2025 10:01

LlynTegid · 06/12/2025 08:18

I'm not convinced that Labour ever was the party of feminism.

The only one of the main big three parties to have never had a female leader, says it all.

ItsCoolForCats · 06/12/2025 10:00

ItsCoolForCats · 06/12/2025 09:38

Does anyone have a Share token for the Times article? I'd like to send it to my 'Be Kind' friend but she probably won't read an archive link.

I have found one

www.thetimes.com/article/2e926aef-4003-4a6b-bfb1-4c45e0e49b25?shareToken=1669c4377a2f078e8df8e618e866095f

HermioneWeasley · 06/12/2025 09:43

A formidable woman

LeftieRightsHoarder · 06/12/2025 09:40

Howseitgoin · 06/12/2025 06:19

Given she's completely clueless about the legal implications of a hasty approval of government regulations, she certainly couldn't have left a moment sooner….

Of course had she had to put her own money on the line for the inevitable legal fall out rather than the tax payer's she'd be at a snails pace…

Good morning to you, Howse! Nice to see you’re busy on the anti-women case, bright and early on a Saturday. Can’t have women celebrating a true heroine, can we?

ItsCoolForCats · 06/12/2025 09:38

Does anyone have a Share token for the Times article? I'd like to send it to my 'Be Kind' friend but she probably won't read an archive link.

BezMills · 06/12/2025 09:34

Full of admiration. The word legend gets thrown about... but for some people it's maybe not even enough

DecorMadness · 06/12/2025 09:24

They may be afraid to change the law. Trying to change it might bring more focus on it, and most would see a change for what it is - a blatant roll back of women’s rights and protections

EasternStandard · 06/12/2025 09:20

She’s brilliant.

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 06/12/2025 09:14

It is odd that the reaction from TRA is that the interpretation of the law is wrong, rather than the law not fit for what they want.

I dont think MP who are sympathetic to TRA really understand any of it or cannot argue for the laws TRA want.

Floisme · 06/12/2025 09:07

What an inspiring woman. Thank you Baroness Falkner.

NoWordForFluffy · 06/12/2025 09:01

I don't think I have seen any Labour MPs, or anyone else for that matter, campaign for a new Equality Act that gives trans people the rights they want. Which is surely the correct reaction to a law you don't like: campaign to repeal it and write a new one, not just ignore it and/or gripe about how the judges are evil for interpreting it in a way you don't like.

Pre-GE (so before the SC decision), my now Labour MP was very clear that the EA required no amendment to it (I was asking for amendment to clarify that sex meant biological sex) and they were proud of it. I imagine this was the party line when the lack of clarity suited them.

It would be a bit of a u turn to suggest that it now does need amending. However, this is the current Labour government. Nothing a good pivot won't sort! 🙄

ApplebyArrows · 06/12/2025 08:48

I don't think I have seen any Labour MPs, or anyone else for that matter, campaign for a new Equality Act that gives trans people the rights they want. Which is surely the correct reaction to a law you don't like: campaign to repeal it and write a new one, not just ignore it and/or gripe about how the judges are evil for interpreting it in a way you don't like.

It's such an Americanised attitude to politics. Win points by pointing out constantly how you disagree with the law as it stands. But don't blame the legislature that made the law, blame the evil unelected judges. And don't, by any means, take any action to actually change anything.

It's pathetic.

CaveMum · 06/12/2025 08:37

LlynTegid · 06/12/2025 08:18

I'm not convinced that Labour ever was the party of feminism.

Quite, the Unions were vehemently opposed to equal pay for women back in the day.

LlynTegid · 06/12/2025 08:18

I'm not convinced that Labour ever was the party of feminism.

ArabellaSaurus · 06/12/2025 08:14

'“I got a lot of threats,” she says. “I had to change my way to work. I walked in different directions, to different Tube stations. Because you’re afraid that somebody will flip and attack you, knife you, do whatever.”
When Labour came to power, ministers initially suggested that her contract was likely to come to an end in December 2024. She decided not to fight it, not least because of her cancer diagnosis.

“I was extremely ill and going through chemotherapy and still hanging on in there doing a three-day-a-week job,” she says. “I thought well, if I’m not going to be around for very much longer it doesn’t really matter whether I get renewed or not. I’ll just do this job to the best of my ability until events overtake themselves. And I just plodded on.”'

I'm in total awe. May we all develop that level of tenacity. So glad she is recovered.

ArabellaSaurus · 06/12/2025 08:06

A phenomenal woman. She has my utmost respect.

Datun · 06/12/2025 07:51

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/12/2025 07:44

She's an amazing woman and she clearly has no intention of keeping quiet about labours cowardice over this issue

Brilliant, isn't it!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/12/2025 07:44

She's an amazing woman and she clearly has no intention of keeping quiet about labours cowardice over this issue

DrBlackbird · 06/12/2025 07:38

We were so lucky to have her fight for women’s and girls rights when so many female politicians and ordinary women have rushed to smugly affirm themselves as the virtuous ones. Happy to leave their sisters facing biologically intact males in female rape centres and female prisons and female hospital wards and of course taking the podium away from regular ordinary women athletes. Big thank you to her from this female.

MyThreeWords · 06/12/2025 07:26

It is lovely to hear from her, after years of good work in a role that wasn't really compatible with speaking out. Good to know that she will be active as a crossbench peer.

And working in that difficult role while dealing with advanced ovarian cancer! What an impressive person.

Hope she enjoys this new phase of her life.

hholiday · 06/12/2025 07:07

Amazing women. We are blessed with some excellent baronesses.

Howseitgoin · 06/12/2025 06:19

Signalbox · 05/12/2025 21:45

“… She has unfinished business, however. Three months ago she submitted, with the support of the board, what she views as her legacy — statutory guidance on how public bodies, businesses and employers should interpret a seismic ruling by the Supreme Court. The ruling, on April 16, clarified that under the Equality Act 2010 the terms “women” and “sex” referred to “biological” sex, not acquired gender.

Since then, however, the guidance has gone nowhere. It is now somewhere in the bowels of the Department for Education, and there is no indication of when it will be published. The EHRC, Falkner says, has been told by the government that it is “all very complex and we need to take our time over it”.

She doesn’t buy it. “We’ve had external counsel, internal counsel, everybody’s looked at it. I mean, I’m so certain of the lawfulness of our code that I don’t think I’ve ever been so certain about anything before,” she says. “The other explanation simply is that they’re terrified of their MPs who would wish for trans self-identification or trans inclusion to prevail across all areas of society, including Section 3 of the Equality Act, and would wish for the exemptions not to exist.” …

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/baroness-falkner-labour-was-the-party-of-feminism-not-any-more-fzgjxswgn

Archive…

https://archive.ph/b9CcE

Given she's completely clueless about the legal implications of a hasty approval of government regulations, she certainly couldn't have left a moment sooner….

Of course had she had to put her own money on the line for the inevitable legal fall out rather than the tax payer's she'd be at a snails pace…

deadpan · 06/12/2025 06:05

@IwantToRetire I didn't know that. She's very determined and it's amazing she was able to work on such an important piece of legislation.