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All men banned from Labour Women's Conference

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lcakethereforeIam · 05/12/2025 18:39

Good news

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/12/05/labour-ban-trans-women-womens-conference/

Although I wish the article had remembered women with some flavour of trans-identity can still attend.

The lads have been given a good long heads-up. They've got plenty of time to piss in bottles and order the crickets.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/12/05/labour-ban-trans-women-womens-conference

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 09/12/2025 15:07

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Grammarnut · 09/12/2025 13:26

Talkinpeace · 07/12/2025 21:28

Cobblers
an ET is not binding on ANY other court.

The Supreme Court is binding on ALL other courts

That doesn't mean the government likes what the SC said. However, I have had a thought about this and supporting biological sex means really annoying the phramaceutical firms that peddle the drugs and surgeries 'needed' by TiMs and TiFs - this is perhaps what the government is worried about. Should do it anyway, the costs to the NHS of picking up the pieces far outweighs any narked Big Pharma' revenge - they still have to sell the other medicines they produce.

lcakethereforeIam · 09/12/2025 09:37

So far, on my bingo card, I've got tras being tras outside the venue. Performative boycotts. Performative denunciation from speakers. Disruption within the venue.

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 09/12/2025 08:54

I hope they get up to their usual intimidating antics outside the venue so people can see what they're like.

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/12/2025 00:01

Talkinpeace · 07/12/2025 21:28

Cobblers
an ET is not binding on ANY other court.

The Supreme Court is binding on ALL other courts

We know that and Philipson knows that but this knowledge is apparently not having any hastening effect on her completing the process of getting the EHRC guidance issued 🤔🤷‍♀️

ArabellaSaurus · 07/12/2025 21:35

Talkinpeace · 07/12/2025 21:28

Cobblers
an ET is not binding on ANY other court.

The Supreme Court is binding on ALL other courts

An EAT sets precedent - this is where Forstater was so impactful. Although yes, of course, the SC takes precedent over all other decisions.

Talkinpeace · 07/12/2025 21:28

Grammarnut · 07/12/2025 19:58

She doesn't want to. The Kelly v Leonardo judgement is now a reason for holding matters up still longer. Kelly intends appealing.

Cobblers
an ET is not binding on ANY other court.

The Supreme Court is binding on ALL other courts

Grammarnut · 07/12/2025 19:58

JanesLittleGirl · 05/12/2025 20:39

So if the NEC of the Labour Party explicitly follows the law regarding the SCJ, what the fuck is stopping Bridget Philipson from laying the EHRC guidance in front of Parliament?

She doesn't want to. The Kelly v Leonardo judgement is now a reason for holding matters up still longer. Kelly intends appealing.

Talkinpeace · 07/12/2025 16:27

The ratio on that John McDonnell post - let alone the quotes - is glorious

lcakethereforeIam · 07/12/2025 16:03

John McDonnell must have a very low opinion of TiMs. It's like he thinks they can't be trusted.

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Imnobody4 · 07/12/2025 13:26

John Mcdonnell's not happy. Love Cathy Devines response

x.com/cathydevine56/status/1997653658327019743?t=dywUHpJKcH3D2E6bNR_K3Q&s=19

Labour Party Rule Book
Chapter 10: 'All individual members of the Party aged between 14 and 26 years inclusive shall be members of Young Labour.'
John McD: This is truly shocking. How is this to be enforced? Are we going to see 74 year olds dragged from meetings? Etc 🙃

This is truly shocking. How is this to be enforced? Is the Labour Party bureaucracy seriously suggesting that checks will be made on entrances to the conference hall on whether a person is trans? Are we going to see trans women being dragged from the hall?
https://x.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1997406371550306523?t=qqXejYXQv1cshbwNVOjjwg&s=19

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John McDonnell (@johnmcdonnellMP) on X

This is truly shocking. How is this to be enforced? Is the Labour Party bureaucracy seriously suggesting that checks will be made on entrances to the conference hall on whether a person is trans? Are we going to see trans women being dragged from the h...

https://x.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1997406371550306523?s=19&t=qqXejYXQv1cshbwNVOjjwg

MarieDeGournay · 07/12/2025 11:42

ProfessorLadyDrKeenovay · 07/12/2025 10:37

I hope the agenda of the main event won't get derailed. Will every other speech start with a genuflection to "our excluded trans sisters"?

Trans ideology truly is the cuckoo that takes over whichever nest it occupies.

I love the cuckoo reference, Professor Lady Doctor😄

I realised that although I know what a cuckoo sounds like, like a lot of people I have no idea what a cuckoo looks like, so I googled it.

I found this photo of a poor, marginalised cuckoo [on the right] experiencing such blatant, hate-fuelled, literal violence from a privileged, worm-hoarding bigot that maybe I should I have put a 'sensitive image' filter on it😏

All men banned from Labour Women's Conference
ProfessorLadyDrKeenovay · 07/12/2025 10:37

I hope the agenda of the main event won't get derailed. Will every other speech start with a genuflection to "our excluded trans sisters"?

Trans ideology truly is the cuckoo that takes over whichever nest it occupies.

Leafstamp · 07/12/2025 09:57

lechiffre55 · 06/12/2025 17:32

@Leafstamp
How do you think Labour will react when the TRAs treat them just like they treat the gender criticals?
There's going to be a lot of dazed and shellshocked Labour people wandering around trying to figure out what's going on, and where all the piss is coming from. "Is there something wrong with the toilets? Why can't they fix it?"
I wonder if the police will be just as absolutely fukking useless as they usually are, or if some magic unknown influence will suddenly spur them into action?

Maybe we'll get to call Lammy a dinosaur hoarding rights like eggs :)

Edited

It’s going to be very interesting seeing it unfold that’s for sure.

JanesLittleGirl · 06/12/2025 21:55

ArabellaSaurus · 06/12/2025 21:27

Why not both?

I think that it is both and it demonstrates a lack of leadership capacity. Leaders lead. They have goals and the vision and purpose to define a path to those goals. They then take their team with them through a combination of personal certainty, empathy and bloody determination. What Bridget is demonstrating is managerial followship. She has no personal political goals and is waiting for the people who she wants to lead to tell her where to lead them. So different to the current PM /s

ArabellaSaurus · 06/12/2025 21:27

Why not both?

JanesLittleGirl · 06/12/2025 21:04

ArabellaSaurus · 06/12/2025 20:28

Ambition, I suppose.

That or cowardice.

ArabellaSaurus · 06/12/2025 20:28

JanesLittleGirl · 05/12/2025 20:39

So if the NEC of the Labour Party explicitly follows the law regarding the SCJ, what the fuck is stopping Bridget Philipson from laying the EHRC guidance in front of Parliament?

Ambition, I suppose.

lechiffre55 · 06/12/2025 17:32

@Leafstamp
How do you think Labour will react when the TRAs treat them just like they treat the gender criticals?
There's going to be a lot of dazed and shellshocked Labour people wandering around trying to figure out what's going on, and where all the piss is coming from. "Is there something wrong with the toilets? Why can't they fix it?"
I wonder if the police will be just as absolutely fukking useless as they usually are, or if some magic unknown influence will suddenly spur them into action?

Maybe we'll get to call Lammy a dinosaur hoarding rights like eggs :)

Leafstamp · 06/12/2025 17:23

lechiffre55 · 06/12/2025 14:25

Breaks out the popcorn.
This is going to be a good one :)
They will tear each other apart. Labour deserves this for cultivating it all in the first place. It's going to be the Your Party conference all over again but at bigger scale.
Even Labour now recognises Project Let Them Speak as a liability.

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I feel similar to this. I'm so angry with Bridget Phillipson for dragging her heels with the EHRC Guidance (and the Gender Questioning Children/s Guidance). Plus she said not so long ago that TW could use women's toilets. Admittedly before the SC ruling, but still.

So bring it on. Let's see the males reveal themselves now that they've been told no.

onlytherain · 06/12/2025 17:05

Why can biological men attend Labour's Women's Conference for any events? Have men always been able to attend Labour's Women's networking events and exhibitions? Or are we celebrating a loss here?

moto748e · 06/12/2025 15:34

A few more signs of the LP respecting court judgments, and actioning them appropriately, would be welcome.

LlynTegid · 06/12/2025 15:33

The Labour Party, led by a lawyer, respecting a court judgment, and finding a way to do so that seems sensible to me.

Of course, if the Tories had clarified the law when in government, and done so many years ago, think how much less pain would have been caused both to women and to those born male who consider their identity to be female.

moto748e · 06/12/2025 15:30

Nadia Whittome won’t be happy

That's generally a good sign.

junipery · 06/12/2025 15:25

Nadia Whittome won’t be happy. Having said that, it’s over 9 months away. Things shift over time so it’ll be interesting to see how much protest there actually is and how much people really take notice of it.

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