Excluding trans people won't stop you getting sued

Oh ffs. The GLP needs to STFU.

GG and the WI are charities set up for women and girls.

It is perfectly legal for these organisations to exclude groups of people under certain circumstances.

Section 193 of the Equality Act ‘allows charities to provide benefits only to people who share the same protected characteristic (eg sex, sexual orientation or disability) if this is in line with their charitable instrument’ - which it is for both the WI and GirlGuiding. They were both set up to cater for girls/women.

It’s really important for girls to have their own spaces away from boys too, for many reasons.

If you’re interested in equality law, I suggest you follow Audrey Ludwig MBE - she explains things very clearly, and is always accurate.

Does anyone know how the finances of the GLP work?
Like does fox guy get paid as both charity leader, and also for lawyering?

The same GLP that crowd funds money from people who don’t know any better, to then just throw it down the drain again when they lose?

because, let’s face it…..what have they ever won ???

he’s a A-grade grifter, drunk on his own ‘fox-killing’ power.

Fragile mental health is at epidemic proportions. Every difficulty in life is an existential crisis. This what a decade of 'safe spaces' and 'trigger warnings' has achieved.

The Foxbasher identifies as a lawyer but I'm starting to be suspicious that he truly can be one. He's just a grifter with an obsession.

Because they are religious zealots who either believe humans can change sex, or useful idiots who believe virtue signalling is important to show they are good people.
It took the Catholic Church almost 400 years to acknowledge Galileo Galilei's observation that the Earth revolved around the Sun ( and not murder him for heresy ). For some people the facts and empirical truth are irrelevant, faith sits above all else. These people believe to a dangerous extent.

I am astonished at the amount of people popping up in my feed commenting they are "heartbroken" "devastated" etc at this decision.

(Once you read one article on it the algorithm keeps sending more).

People really do lack critical thinking don't they.

Indeed. And if they said that they were to continue including TiMs then they can be sued by men and boys who are not TiMs and being unlawfully excluded.

Of course that former tax barrister identifies as more of an expert on equality law than the Supreme Court.

I'm not aware of any case GLP has won for trans-ideology. but they are really good at fund raising for these cases.

Why can't these people just accept the reality that male humans, under no circumstances can become female and therefore will never be women and so must by the law be excluded from female single sex spaces. So typically misogynist to make veiled threats at women and girls trying to carve out some female only space in the world.

GLP just seem to exist to keep some lawyers employed. Winning doesn’t seem very important.

I don’t know about the legalities, but they aren’t excluding trans people are they?

Trans boys are welcome to join the Guides, as are biologically female non-binary people.

They’re wrong, it really is not a very complex point of law to understand that if you exclude men but allow in men who say ‘I identify as a woman’ then you are discriminating against men who don’t say the magic words, and that type of discrimination is unlawful. GG and WI could have opted to allow in all males and make their organisations mixed sex, but they didn’t want to do that and they didn’t have to do that. GLP are grifters and grifters gonna grift.

Excluding trans people won't stop you getting sued

Which is expensive. But it will stop you losing in court. Which is even more expensive.

I think the GLP is just an exercise in extracting as much money from trans people as possible.

Lots of trans people want to believe that the PC of GR makes men women. Or that a GRC changes a persons sex.

These things can never happen.

If an organisation can argue that the service they provide needs to be single sex, they cant then allow some people of the opposite sex to use service. It makes the first argument- that single sex is proportional, invalid.

Trans reddit cant decided whether they are the most marginalised in society, or there is so much love for them that these organisations wont survive without them and their supporters.

Some suckers will contribute to the GLP's grift. The GLP's patsy will lose. Jolyon and his pals will be quids in.

Same as it always was.

GLP want to argue that males can be women. Bring it on I say.

It's total mis-representation. They are not excluding trans people (ie people with the protected characteristic of gender re-assignment) - they are excluding males.

This is entirely legal as a proportionate aim.

What isn't legal is allowing some males, but not others.

You can have groups who combine protected characteristics - eg. Black Lesbians, Pregnant Buddhists, but you can't select disconnected ones - eg. males with gender re-assignment and females without it - groups which have no commonality of characteristics on which to base the legitimate aim of excluding others without it.

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They're not excluding trans people from joining though, they maintain they are single sex services and if they want to be able to make that claim, they need to exclude males only. Males are excluded from joining. Female transgender applicants would be welcome to join so where is the trans discrimination?