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Still no BBC report on the Girl Guides change of policy

39 replies

Quercus5 · 02/12/2025 19:11

So much for the BBC changing its policy towards reporting trans issues. This Girl Guides story is really significant - why no report yet?

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sleepwouldbenice · 03/12/2025 00:25

borntobequiet · 02/12/2025 21:19

Though it was reported on R4 at six, it was confusing - which surprised me, as it was Lucy Manning reporting. It was never explicitly made clear that a “trans girl” is a boy. Unless you actually knew that - and lots of people think that a “trans girl” is a girl who identifies as a boy - the comments about and from Sex Matters would need some unpicking. I think the BBC is still dragging its feet.

I understood it perfectly. I what very clear

Needspaceforlego · 03/12/2025 00:25

But even if they don't want to throw the boys out its still a step away from the TWAW line. And also means they need to issue proper safeguarding guidelines for the girls who may find themselves at camps with boys.

RedToothBrush · 03/12/2025 00:19

It is not clear how many people the rule change will directly affect, as the organisation says it does not collect data on gender identity.

So they DO collect data on sex?

Or they just don't know and don't care, so won't be able to kick out the boys anyway.

BundleBoogie · 02/12/2025 21:27

Biological girls who identify as boys are still able to join.

I thought they didn’t let girls who identified as boys join previously? I may have misremembered.

borntobequiet · 02/12/2025 21:19

Though it was reported on R4 at six, it was confusing - which surprised me, as it was Lucy Manning reporting. It was never explicitly made clear that a “trans girl” is a boy. Unless you actually knew that - and lots of people think that a “trans girl” is a girl who identifies as a boy - the comments about and from Sex Matters would need some unpicking. I think the BBC is still dragging its feet.

Rumplestiltz · 02/12/2025 20:45

Was very high up on the 6pm radio news with sex matters quoted. So I would say a lot has changed.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/12/2025 20:43

Lovelyview · 02/12/2025 20:07

Clearly following the new BBC informal rules. 'biological boys who identify as girls' and giving equal space to Transactual and Sex Matters. Let's hope if they do a sad boy who identifies as a girl story they'll also give equal weight to girl/parent who is delighted GG will actually be single sex.

They also included this which hopefully makes it clear it’s not a ban on gender-questioning kids. Just getting back to being single sex regardless of ‘gender identity’.
Biological girls who identify as boys are still able to join.

Lovelyview · 02/12/2025 20:07

Clearly following the new BBC informal rules. 'biological boys who identify as girls' and giving equal space to Transactual and Sex Matters. Let's hope if they do a sad boy who identifies as a girl story they'll also give equal weight to girl/parent who is delighted GG will actually be single sex.

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 02/12/2025 19:52

It was literally right there.

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Quercus5 · 02/12/2025 19:15

Ah, my post crossed. Maybe it took them all afternoon to agree the line they wanted to take

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impossibletoday · 02/12/2025 19:15

It was mentioned briefly mentioned on the BBC 6 o'clock news.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/12/2025 19:14

Quercus5 · 02/12/2025 19:11

So much for the BBC changing its policy towards reporting trans issues. This Girl Guides story is really significant - why no report yet?

Maybe they want to get some reactions from parents/girls and GG leaders to counterbalance that ridiculous ‘heavy heart’ line?