EHRC under pressure

Yes. They now need to put a flat earther into whatever orgs oversee the airplane, and air traffic control. No going west anymore, as the edge of the world may lie in the mid Atlantic. Go the long way around! You must be inclusive of those who peddle anti reality beliefs. They wouldn’t as it would affect and disbenefit men as well.

But the promotion of men as magically being women (on their say so) almost exclusively disbenefits and threatens women and children. So that is ok.

Do we know of any good people putting themselves forward for commissioner? In less good news, I heard Mel Field (if I remember her name properly) is trying.

If he thinks that mealy mouthed shite will get the TRAs in the Greens off his back he’s got another think coming.

Good response from the Labour MP Preet Kaur,

"The Supreme Court has made its ruling, and its judgment is binding law! Suggesting we look at the evidence ignores the fact that the highest court in the country has already done precisely that".

Not that Adrian Ramsey will acknowledge it. It is so annoying when MPs post these type of statements and then refuse to engage with any of the responses.

Read the article. Not the government. One Labour backbencher.

It is quite astounding how determined so many people in positions of power are to ignore the law.

Putting a trans person in this role will have a chilling effect on all discussion and will not go well for women.

They know the country doesn’t want men in women’s SSS and sports, so they won’t campaign openly, but instead will apparently try to achieve their desired aim through back door measures.

If labour think the law is wrong or not in line with their party stance, then the remedy is to seek to change the law to change sex to self identified gender for all legislative purposes. Please can they stop with the surreptitious delays and obfuscation which is further destroying public faith in politics and damaging the country.

Let them campaign on that basis and guage public support. Let them be honest about the fact that any man may access women in changing rooms, toilets, prisons, hospital wards ( 33 rapes a week according to recent reports on NHS England wards). Honesty please.

I'm not sure what form the preferred guidance could even take?

Your sex matters for everything except toilets?

We can just imagine the ferocious battle going on to ensure ideological control trumps legal guidance at the EHRC. It must be an intense fight with the departure of Baroness Falkner as the TRAs see this as their golden opportunity to take control and shape further guidance.

Remember that the spirit of the law is open to interpretation of the letter of the law. Baroness Falkner has been a thorn in the TRA side and that enraged them. Every other govt body rolled over to their incessant demands but the EHRC and it needs to be reined in. Hence, the delay in published guidance. I very much doubt that the new chair will be as clear and robust as baroness Falkner.

I don’t disagree. My position is - if someone is well equipped for the job, I couldn’t give a monkeys about whether or not they have protected characteristics.

If they did appoint a competent, capable person with a trans identity, that’s fine with me. If they appoint someone on the basis of being trans, who is not suitable, that’s not.

I'm challenged to think of a single TIM who is anything less than a fanatical TRA, let alone sympathetic to GC, let a lone would be willing to oversee the preparation of guidance that would enforce the SC ruling.

See this thread, as it gives the links needed should any of you want to apply.

You can give your working experience as being a contributor to FWR!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5439177-ehrc-recruiting-commissioners

God, imagine if they end up with someone like Steph Richards as a commissioner.

But even if they do try and fill the EHRC with TRAs, and they put out guidance that is contrary to the law, how is that going to go down with businesses who get sued because they followed flawed guidance?

Every day could end up being Haech Lockwood vs Cheshire and Wirral NHS Foundation Trust pulling in an many unfortunate bystanders as possible.

Great! put a reality denying, science rejecting person on a committee that has powers. What could go wrong with that. 😒

Good lord, that potential line manager must have a GIGANTIC masochistic streak.

Well that article reads to me as though the government is delaying until it can stuff the ECHR with pro trans voices (and maybe get the advice “updated” to something it prefers 🙄) - taking a leaf from Trump’s book with the US Supreme Court justices. Yes, I know “it’s the law” but the government is clearly looking for the ECHR to tell them otherwise. The battle continues.