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The myth of 'bathroom bans' harming 'cis' women

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ItsCoolForCats · 29/11/2025 11:10

What can we do to put this nonsense to bed?

Marie Goldman, the Lib Dem MP, has written to Bridget Phillipson about the leaked EHRC code of practice, and has posted this on her Facebook page:

"Imagine being turned away from a bathroom, a hospital, or even a cinema just for “not looking female enough”.

That’s exactly what the leaked EHRC guidance on single-sex services could lead to. Along with over 40 Lib Dem colleagues, I’ve written to the Minister for Women & Equalities to raise serious concerns.

The draft could have staff questioning anyone’s sex based on appearance and refusing access if there’s any doubt. That risks putting trans and non-binary people – and all women and girls – in unsafe, humiliating situations.

It’s confusing, unworkable for businesses, and a backward step for equality. We urgently need new, inclusive, practical guidance that protects everyone’s rights, safety, and dignity".

The comments under her post are pretty wild (with a smattering of common sense). And when you click on the profile pictures of some of the 'women' claiming this will harm 'cis' women and is unenforceable, it is apparent within half a second of looking at their profile pictures that they are male. And of course there are the usual compliant women saying it's "cis het" men that are the issue.

Why can't people see this for what is? Emotional manipulation and blackmail designed to allow men to keep accessing women's single sex spaces. I find it astonishing that intelligent people fall for this.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/11/2025 11:34

teawamutu · 29/11/2025 11:32

Amazing how no-one gave a fuck about women's feelings until caring about them helped get men what they want.

Isn't it just!!!

teawamutu · 29/11/2025 11:32

Amazing how no-one gave a fuck about women's feelings until caring about them helped get men what they want.

Justme56 · 29/11/2025 11:30

What cinemas turn people away based on how they look?

MarieDeGournay · 29/11/2025 11:29

DuchessDandelion · 29/11/2025 11:20

But it isn't a myth, it happens.

Every time this comes up here, several of us, myself included, report that we have indeed been challenged in a women's toilet - 'This is the ladies!' because of how we look - whether deliberately or not - and/or how we dress.

We've all said that a calm, friendly reply of 'It's OK I am in the right place' has immediately caused the 'challengers' to have a second look, perceive all those markers that enable women to ID men, including gait, voice and attitude, and all is well.

Even when it happens to non-gender-conforming women like me, it's not a big deal. Save your energy for real social issues, Marie Goldman MP.

Columbidae · 29/11/2025 11:22

As ever, if we knew that 100% of men would never go into female single-sex spaces, then scrutiny and challenge would not be necessary.

DuchessDandelion · 29/11/2025 11:20

But it isn't a myth, it happens.

RegusGirl · 29/11/2025 11:19

We are hardwired to identify whether a person is male or female.

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