What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…

Absolutely!

Where did I liken her to Kirk? It wasn’t me that did that.

But since you brought him up, yes, she is like Charlie Kirk. She was a friend, colleague and associate of his. She travelled around college campuses early on giving speeches with TPUSA arranged by Kirk, and the mode of her media operation of very similar to Kirk’s.

I think her activism on behalf of women’s sports is great. The Trumpism, anti-immigration, nationalism, evangelism, mom-is-best messaging - not so much. This is what she is being paid for. And yes, I would consider some of it misinformation, and a good amount of it propaganda.

Oh, misandry exists all right. The difference compared with misogyny is that misandry rarely does much damage, because of the power imbalance in favour of men. When I say 'rarely', I mean just that; not 'never', but far from 'often'.

Misandry

Well I certainly have dislike and contempt for all men who are violent, sex offenders, predators, bullies, intimidators, lechers, leerers, misogynists, sexists, chauvinists, and not fans of Withnail and I.

The remainder can take a bow.

Misandry 🙄This is another attempt to put feminists in a negative light for their reasonable reaction to male violence and misogyny.

Rules of misogyny:
12. Women’s ability to recognize male behaviour patterns is misandry.

Does it look like we're "happy" putting men in that statement?

It's just true, and women have to deal with it.

Yes, if it was backed up by stats.

There's no other group that are overrepresented as violent offenders to this extent. We are talking about the male 49% of the population committing over 90% of the murders. It doesn't matter whether you slice up a population by race, religion, sexual orientation, whatever, there is no other group whose members are 9x more likely to murder than their peers outwith that group.

They have a "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudiced against men."

I think you've seen women expressing fear of male violence and frustration with how male violence limits our lives, and interpreted that fear as contempt, dislike, or prejudice.

When over 95% of murderers are men and 98% of sex offenders are men, and when only a male sex offender can leave only a female victim pregnant against her will, women's fear of men is rational and our frustration at their continued violence is justified.

This is the bit where, I'm supposed to say

"Would you be happy putting any other group in that statement?"

Is it a prejudice when statistics back up that men are responsible for the vast majority of crimes committed against women?

I find it amusing that on a thread about a group that has changed definitions of words that we have the same thing going on with the word misandry.

No-one has said that its systemic, or in the case of a pp going to the absolute worst scenario.

The definition of misandry stands without the reasons or explanations that posters wish to put forward.

some women on here are misandrists.

They have a "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudiced against men."

but this is going off topic and I apologise for that.

I think that like Conservatism comes in little c and big C versions, Misogyny is the same. There's the little daily hates from individuals (little m) and the Big M overarching woman hatred of (for instance) not having female crash dummies, or not testing medications on us, or keeping us in silence in our homes only allowed to look at the world through one eye.

Misandry only comes in little M. There's no systematic man-hating going on anywhere in the world.

You have to laugh. You can barely get a swimming costume on even if it's not a competitive one whilst holding onto a towel. There aren't many women who haven't tried to do exactly that on the beach. Hence those things that tie up with a drawstring round the neck. (And even they don't really work).

I suspect the explanation is that men just don't get it, because all they all they need to do is wrap a towel around their waist, job done.

Not that I think Howse has ever done any swimming or indeed had to get changed for anything athletic.

What does Thomas have to “expose” if Thomas is a woman? I imagine that in Thomas’ mind there is a modestly pixilated area from his belly button to his thighs so that his external genitals are obscured from casual gaze. Sadly for the poor women who were forced to share a changing room with him, his penis was in full view and apparently taking a perky interest in its surroundings.

Women's justified distrust of men isn't comparable to their tendency to rape and murder us. Hence why no such thing as misandry. Calling women's fear that men might kill us "misandry" is both-sidesism and hence utter nonsense.

I'm a little baffled by MN deleting my post saying I believe Howseitgoin is a man when many other posts saying the same thing are allowed to stand.
Oh well. Perhaps it was the way I said it.

Why would you think that misandry doesn't exist?

Its fairly clear that there are plenty of women on MN that have a dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudiced against men.

I'm not in the U.S so i don't know the extent to which RG has become one of the 'go to' people/faces when it comes to the issue of males in female spaces and sports.....but it sounds like she is now quite prominent. She's receiving the same sort of hate that JK Rowling has long received.

I think we under-estimate too just how mental/far gone the U.S is on this issue; even those who are not in favour of trans ideology and its consequences stiil automatically use pronouns and the terms of reference that arise directly from it.

I was thinking the same. Ime only men believe in misandry. Women usually know it's BS.

I'm bloody glad she's getting paid. Otherwise she might have to stop.

Ah...

Madison Pauly is the reporter covering gender and politics at MotherJones.com, so it is hardly surprising that someone of her ilk would try to rubbish Riley Gaines. The left/Democrats are even worse that Labour over here, in fact they are on a par with the Greens.

On the subject of being cancelled.

It is worth pointing out that many of these women would have been on sports scholarships.
So, if they had said anything at the time, the scholarship would have been pulled (as was threatened) and their futures lost.

I post this as I am sure that many on here supporting men in women's sports have little idea of how the American college system works and how many people get these types of sponsorships to be able to get a leg up on the level of career that they can aspire to.

Yep.

The incoherence is almost palpable.