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What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…

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Brewdug · 27/11/2025 00:26

This podcast appeared in my feed today via an affiliated show… I know it is naive but it’s still hard to believe how blinkered - and unbearably smug the US liberal wing is on this. This is rubbish ( from the ‘Center for Investigative Reporting’, which I now wouldn’t trust to tell me if it was raining), but still enlightening… wondered if anyone else had heard it.

A six month dig to discredit Gaines - we’re not supposed to notice that everyone they’re trying to gotcha in this won’t dignify any of it - that finds her hiding (spoiler alert) nothing?

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reveal/id886009669?i=1000738472306

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Legobricksinatub · 05/12/2025 23:55

Isn’t it amazing how such an unpopular party as the Republicans must be to only have support from those who have been paid to support it, still managed to scrape enough votes together to get majorities in senate and house and a republican president?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 19:42

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 10:38

Again, your comprehension isn’t that great as I have mentioned both sides. I think you’re being quite naive here to think this doesn’t happen. (For the record, obviously not all women who support the Republican Party are told what to post - only the paid pundits with an audience reach are.)

Think about for a moment. For example, Republicans on any given day might have a list of 2 high priority issues and 4 lower priority ones that require some kind of messaging to the public. The GOP sends this list to their pundits with the images and suggested wording. Messaging goes out and because these pundits do have audience reach and are interested inter-connected, they go viral.

This has been standard since at least 2015 for political parties across the world, but particularly the US. I’m unsure why it’s such a surprise to you.

I get mailings from LGB Alliance, along with thousands of other people. If I had a Twitter, I might choose to tweet about what I saw in the latest mailing. Others amongst the thousands might also do that if something big came up. It would look to all the world like LGBA have paid shills. They don't, they just have supporters.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 19:34

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 09:43

Do you.understand that AOC is elected and Gaines is not? Riley has guest spots on Fox News. Do you think she does that for free? When she just happens to tweet the exact same thing every other right-wing pundit is tweeting, do you think that is just coincidence? News for you: it isn’t coincidence. I’m honestly having trouble believing you’re denying this, particularly as the Left does the same thing with their own pundits, just on a somewhat smaller scale.

Do you not see that AOC has a shittonne more power than Gaines does, because she is elected to Congress? Gaines possibly takes money to tweet and speak on Fox News, where she'll be preaching to the choir. People can switch channel and they can ignore her tweets. AOC provably takes a HoR salary to vote on federal law and policy, which 100% of Americans must comply with.

Citizens have the right to criticise elected representatives. Even if we pretend for the moment that you've produced bank statements or whathaveyou to prove that Gaines is employed by the GOP, political parties have the right to employ campaigners. I don't see why you are trying to tear into Gaines here.

NotBadConsidering · 05/12/2025 11:42

and puff up Cortez who has been outspoken in her support for including men in women's sports.

And outspoken in her support of men in women’s everything.

And outspoken in her support of sterilising children.

SionnachRuadh · 05/12/2025 11:02

All of this Chomskyite-Pilgerite conspiratology doesn't get us very far.

Do political parties do messaging? Of course they do. Do they manipulate the media where they have the opportunity to do so? We need only look at big names in American media like Dave Weigel or Ezra Klein, who are nominally "journalists" but in practice Democratic Party operatives whose job is communicate what the Democrats want us to think.

Riley Gaines getting the occasional talking head spot on Fox, overwhelmingly to talk about her core issue of women's sports, is not the same.

Nor does it follow that the party tells her what to tweet, on what issue, and when. That's rather a big claim, and it rests on an assumption that she doesn't have any thoughts of her own, but just does what she's told.

And all the throat-clearing about "I don't have an issue with her stance on women's sports" sits oddly with this massive attempt to deligitimise whatever Gaines says, and puff up Cortez who has been outspoken in her support for including men in women's sports.

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 11:02

Apologies for the random ‘interested’ in that post!

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 10:38

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 09:48

I have, which is why I pointed out that your replies are nonsensical, ridiculous and politically blinkered and biased. We get it. You hate Republicans and think women who support the Republican party are 'told' what to post. You make assertions that you would never make about Democratic women.

Again, your comprehension isn’t that great as I have mentioned both sides. I think you’re being quite naive here to think this doesn’t happen. (For the record, obviously not all women who support the Republican Party are told what to post - only the paid pundits with an audience reach are.)

Think about for a moment. For example, Republicans on any given day might have a list of 2 high priority issues and 4 lower priority ones that require some kind of messaging to the public. The GOP sends this list to their pundits with the images and suggested wording. Messaging goes out and because these pundits do have audience reach and are interested inter-connected, they go viral.

This has been standard since at least 2015 for political parties across the world, but particularly the US. I’m unsure why it’s such a surprise to you.

Legobricksinatub · 05/12/2025 10:17

It is very misogynistic to think women are unable to form their own opinions.

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 09:50

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 09:43

Do you.understand that AOC is elected and Gaines is not? Riley has guest spots on Fox News. Do you think she does that for free? When she just happens to tweet the exact same thing every other right-wing pundit is tweeting, do you think that is just coincidence? News for you: it isn’t coincidence. I’m honestly having trouble believing you’re denying this, particularly as the Left does the same thing with their own pundits, just on a somewhat smaller scale.

Again, how does doing some interview mean she is told what to post on twitter and when. Explain that.

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 09:48

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 07:21

Gosh. Your posts are almost identical to some others’ on here. Please read back a page or so for my replies to those.

I have, which is why I pointed out that your replies are nonsensical, ridiculous and politically blinkered and biased. We get it. You hate Republicans and think women who support the Republican party are 'told' what to post. You make assertions that you would never make about Democratic women.

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 09:47

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 07:24

BTW - you sound ridiculous for two reasons: the first due to you can’t even be bothered to read back even a page, and the second, because you truly believe pundits like Gaines aren’t told what to tweet.

The fact that you truly believe a private citizen - not even a politician, is 'told' what to tweet makes you sound batshit ridiculous.

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 09:47

oldtiredcyclist · 05/12/2025 07:47

Deputy Director of the FBI, political commentator and radio host - of course he gets paid for his opinions. In other news, the Pope is Catholic and bears have been known to s**t in the woods.

He said that before he became Deputy Director of the FBI, he was paid for his opinions (ie. he isn’t now).

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 09:43

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 08:01

How do you think things or particular statements go viral to begin with?

#saggyboobsmatter went viral because a fashion commentator posted about it and it resonated with women. #metoo went viral because women are sick of men sexually harassing us.

You keep saying that Gaines is a "shill", someone paid to parrot what she's told to. You deny that AOC does the same. It's AOC who literally works for a political party in the House and is told how to vote in the House by a Congressional Whip. Yet you don't see the hypocrisy in being OK with one woman provably taking money to literally vote on legislation the right way whilst the other might (where's the proof?) take money to say stuff you don't like.

You don't like Gaines because she's Team R instead of Team D, and that's the heart of it.

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Do you.understand that AOC is elected and Gaines is not? Riley has guest spots on Fox News. Do you think she does that for free? When she just happens to tweet the exact same thing every other right-wing pundit is tweeting, do you think that is just coincidence? News for you: it isn’t coincidence. I’m honestly having trouble believing you’re denying this, particularly as the Left does the same thing with their own pundits, just on a somewhat smaller scale.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 08:01

TortillaKitty · 04/12/2025 22:59

Yes, she is. She works with/for the GOP, TPUSA, Fox News, and receives funds from various right-wing sources. How do you think things or particular statements go viral to begin with? Every single day, both parties send out issues of importance they want their pundits to highlight on X. You didn’t know this?

How do you think things or particular statements go viral to begin with?

#saggyboobsmatter went viral because a fashion commentator posted about it and it resonated with women. #metoo went viral because women are sick of men sexually harassing us.

You keep saying that Gaines is a "shill", someone paid to parrot what she's told to. You deny that AOC does the same. It's AOC who literally works for a political party in the House and is told how to vote in the House by a Congressional Whip. Yet you don't see the hypocrisy in being OK with one woman provably taking money to literally vote on legislation the right way whilst the other might (where's the proof?) take money to say stuff you don't like.

You don't like Gaines because she's Team R instead of Team D, and that's the heart of it.

oldtiredcyclist · 05/12/2025 07:47

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 07:26

Relevant: look up news about Dan Bongino just today. He admitted he was paid for his opinions.

Deputy Director of the FBI, political commentator and radio host - of course he gets paid for his opinions. In other news, the Pope is Catholic and bears have been known to s**t in the woods.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 07:42

TortillaKitty · 04/12/2025 22:52

Still can’t answer then?

You asked why I mentioned Marxism. I explained why.

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 07:26

Relevant: look up news about Dan Bongino just today. He admitted he was paid for his opinions.

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 07:24

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 06:13

So it does come down to your biased, blinkered beliefs.

AOC - good.
Gaines - bad because she supports Trump.

Trump is a politician and elected representative, and has obviously studied politics. It's his job.

Admit this is about 'sides'. You think Gaines doesn't have a mind of her own BECAUSE she is Republican. You're simply closed-minded and biased.

Gaines clearly has studied politics and is passionately engaged, and passionately believes in her views. Yet you think she is 'given orders' and AOC isn't. Your position is batshit crazy ridiculous. Surely you must know how ridiculous you sound. You're embarrassing yourself.

BTW - you sound ridiculous for two reasons: the first due to you can’t even be bothered to read back even a page, and the second, because you truly believe pundits like Gaines aren’t told what to tweet.

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 07:21

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 06:13

So it does come down to your biased, blinkered beliefs.

AOC - good.
Gaines - bad because she supports Trump.

Trump is a politician and elected representative, and has obviously studied politics. It's his job.

Admit this is about 'sides'. You think Gaines doesn't have a mind of her own BECAUSE she is Republican. You're simply closed-minded and biased.

Gaines clearly has studied politics and is passionately engaged, and passionately believes in her views. Yet you think she is 'given orders' and AOC isn't. Your position is batshit crazy ridiculous. Surely you must know how ridiculous you sound. You're embarrassing yourself.

Gosh. Your posts are almost identical to some others’ on here. Please read back a page or so for my replies to those.

oldtiredcyclist · 05/12/2025 06:37

TortillaKitty · 04/12/2025 23:06

This is an image of her tweet.

So, we have some random woman, suggesting that Gaines only has to try harder and swim faster to beat a biological male - wow! I know whose side I am on and it isn't the random woman.

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 06:13

TortillaKitty · 04/12/2025 23:15

I would not call AOC a shill simply because she is a politician and elected representative, has studied politics - this is her position.

Gaines is happy, on occasion, spreading misinformation for Trump. So - a shill.

So it does come down to your biased, blinkered beliefs.

AOC - good.
Gaines - bad because she supports Trump.

Trump is a politician and elected representative, and has obviously studied politics. It's his job.

Admit this is about 'sides'. You think Gaines doesn't have a mind of her own BECAUSE she is Republican. You're simply closed-minded and biased.

Gaines clearly has studied politics and is passionately engaged, and passionately believes in her views. Yet you think she is 'given orders' and AOC isn't. Your position is batshit crazy ridiculous. Surely you must know how ridiculous you sound. You're embarrassing yourself.

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 06:09

TortillaKitty · 04/12/2025 22:59

Yes, she is. She works with/for the GOP, TPUSA, Fox News, and receives funds from various right-wing sources. How do you think things or particular statements go viral to begin with? Every single day, both parties send out issues of importance they want their pundits to highlight on X. You didn’t know this?

Doing interviews does not equate to her being told to tweet on X. You are way over-stretching and being ridiculous. She is not a politician! You act like she is a Republican politician with orders from the leader. She supports them, that's all.

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 05:58

TortillaKitty · 04/12/2025 10:01

But In this instance, she’s hardly an innocent bystander just making a comment, is she? She’s falling into line with the rest of the Republican activists when told to make X posts against the election of Mamdani. I don’t care about tradwives nor comparisons to career women. That doesn’t interest me.

I have no issue with her sporting activism. None. The rest of it? Not as much.

when told to make X posts against the election of Mamdani

What? What makes you think she is 'told' to do anything? You honestly think she doesn't have a mind of her own, is passionately holding beliefs, and is politically engaging on X just like everyone else?

I have no issue with her sporting activism. None. The rest of it? Not as much.

In other words, sports people should keep to their own brief and not participate in political life at all, right? You realise she is a citizen and has as much right to participate in discussion of current affairs as does a dancer, singer, actor, butcher, bar attendant, teacher, lawyer, neurosurgeon, shop keeper or someone on benefits?

I wonder if she advocated for the Democrats you would hold your same 'sportspeople should not talk about anything other than sports' view.

ThatBlackCat · 05/12/2025 05:55

TortillaKitty · 04/12/2025 09:20

Uh huh.

Perhaps you’ve forgotten she’s a paid Republican shill. AOC was doing normal political stuff, you know, campaigning. Gaines implied that the US was being destroyed by Islam with the help of AOC and Bernie Sanders. There was nothing I’m-just-a-concerned-citizen-here about it.

So does that make AOC a paid Democratic shill?

The point is Gaines posted a news photo and didn't even refer to AOC and '@' her. If AOC is so thin-skinned she needs to lash out like that, to the extent she personally attacks Gaines then she has no business holding public office.

It really is as simple as that.

AOC shouldn't start shit and not expect it back.

TortillaKitty · 05/12/2025 00:58

SionnachRuadh · 04/12/2025 23:26

I just want to say, because @TortillaKitty may have missed it, that I've recently been involved in other discussions of political tribalism. Notably, when I mention that Zarah Sultana chooses to ally herself with literal rape enablers, this is met with a wall of sarcasm, because who could possibly have an issue with the People's Zarah? Clearly you must be a right wing shill if you're criticising Zarah.

Now perhaps do that again without the condescension. I'm not saying you're a defender of Martin Smith, I'm just saying I'm very familiar with the style.

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WTF?