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What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…

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Brewdug · 27/11/2025 00:26

This podcast appeared in my feed today via an affiliated show… I know it is naive but it’s still hard to believe how blinkered - and unbearably smug the US liberal wing is on this. This is rubbish ( from the ‘Center for Investigative Reporting’, which I now wouldn’t trust to tell me if it was raining), but still enlightening… wondered if anyone else had heard it.

A six month dig to discredit Gaines - we’re not supposed to notice that everyone they’re trying to gotcha in this won’t dignify any of it - that finds her hiding (spoiler alert) nothing?

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reveal/id886009669?i=1000738472306

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Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:41

Namelessnelly · 27/11/2025 05:35

Absolute proof you’ve never tried to put on a competitive swimming swimsuit. Why are you so invested in campaigning for males to be allowed into female spaces? You do seem to be overly determined to scold and browbeat women into compliance. Why is that? Don’t you think women deserve single sex spaces? If not, why not? If William was so upset about changing in front of his fellow men, he could have used a cubicle in the men’s. I understand they’re great for preserving dignity and privacy

The context on this thread is whether Riley Gaines is a genuine supporter of women's rights not the ethics of single sex spaces. There are plenty of threads for that.

That Gaines campaigned ….&.exaggerated her experience for a political party who are a threat to women's rights ought to give pause in feminist spaces.

EmmyFr · 27/11/2025 05:36

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:28

"We were forced to undress in the presence of"

-Paula Scanlon testimony.

No claim of sighting nudity was made by her.

docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU10/20230727/116284/HHRG-118-JU10-Wstate-ScanlanP-20230727.pdf

Your very source mentions "fully intact male genitalia". How would Scanlon be able to testify to that if Thomas had not exposed said genitalia?

Namelessnelly · 27/11/2025 05:35

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:18

Changing in the same room isn't the same as exposing nudity. You have no evidence any one other than Gaines said Lia Thomas exposed herself to the other swimmers.

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Absolute proof you’ve never tried to put on a competitive swimming swimsuit. Why are you so invested in campaigning for males to be allowed into female spaces? You do seem to be overly determined to scold and browbeat women into compliance. Why is that? Don’t you think women deserve single sex spaces? If not, why not? If William was so upset about changing in front of his fellow men, he could have used a cubicle in the men’s. I understand they’re great for preserving dignity and privacy

EmmyFr · 27/11/2025 05:33

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/11/2025 04:43

And to think this situation could have been avoided if the man involved had respected women and not used the female changing room, whether he flashed anyone or not.

Aaaaaaand... Proving you're a man once again. It is extremely difficult for women to talk about being exposed to sexual assault. Despite being the innocent victims they feel soiled and humiliated.

Add to this the fact that Gaines knew she would be harassed for speaking up, as indeed she was (Laurie Penny vibe of "if a TW walks around showing you "her" penis in a changing room, it's your fault, you shouldn't stare")

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:28

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:19

She has said he changed in front of them. In...front.....of.....them.

What do you suppose that means, if not the obvious.

"We were forced to undress in the presence of"

-Paula Scanlon testimony.

No claim of sighting nudity was made by her.

docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU10/20230727/116284/HHRG-118-JU10-Wstate-ScanlanP-20230727.pdf

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:20

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:19

She has said he changed in front of them. In...front.....of.....them.

What do you suppose that means, if not the obvious.

Quote?

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:19

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:18

Changing in the same room isn't the same as exposing nudity. You have no evidence any one other than Gaines said Lia Thomas exposed herself to the other swimmers.

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She has said he changed in front of them. In...front.....of.....them.

What do you suppose that means, if not the obvious.

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:18

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:14

Again, as we established awhile ago, you are lying. Paula Scanlan is on record that he changed clothes in front of them.

Changing in the same room isn't the same as exposing nudity. You have no evidence any one other than Gaines said Lia Thomas exposed herself to the other swimmers.

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:14

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 04:56

False. Only Gaines claimed Thomas exposed herself. The other complaints were about Thomas' presence in the change room with individuals in the podcast claiming she was covered in a towel & kept to herself.

And you have claimed this before sighting evidence that said no such thing.

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Again, as we established awhile ago, you are lying. Paula Scanlan is on record that he changed clothes in front of them.

Namelessnelly · 27/11/2025 05:12

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 04:56

False. Only Gaines claimed Thomas exposed herself. The other complaints were about Thomas' presence in the change room with individuals in the podcast claiming she was covered in a towel & kept to herself.

And you have claimed this before sighting evidence that said no such thing.

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Yes dear. And you’ve claimed before that crying, liking pink and being kind are the way to prove someone is a woman. I do worry about you.

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 04:56

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 04:52

but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

That is an absolute lie. Paula and several other women on the team have come forward and said he didn't even cover himself with a towel.

False. Only Gaines claimed Thomas exposed herself. The other complaints were about Thomas' presence in the change room with individuals in the podcast claiming she was covered in a towel & kept to herself.

And you have claimed this before sighting evidence that said no such thing.

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 04:52

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 04:41

Interesting. Lot's of red flags about Gaines.

Gaines complained initially about competing with trans women but as she was deployed as a right wing political operative during Trump's campaign her story 'evolved' into one about sexual assault for being in the presence of an exposed trans women in the swim change rooms. All while ignoring the environment of sexual assault & abuse of her team mates at the time by her coach who she lauded as her close friend & mentor.

Gaines only claimed much later Thomas was exposing herself in the change rooms but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

Whatever you think about women in sport, this appears to be another example of trans women being weaponised as a political cudgel rather than any real concern about protecting women given sexual abuse of women in sport is a common problem.

but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

That is an absolute lie. Paula and several other women on the team have come forward and said he didn't even cover himself with a towel.

NCReceptor · 27/11/2025 04:50

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 04:41

Interesting. Lot's of red flags about Gaines.

Gaines complained initially about competing with trans women but as she was deployed as a right wing political operative during Trump's campaign her story 'evolved' into one about sexual assault for being in the presence of an exposed trans women in the swim change rooms. All while ignoring the environment of sexual assault & abuse of her team mates at the time by her coach who she lauded as her close friend & mentor.

Gaines only claimed much later Thomas was exposing herself in the change rooms but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

Whatever you think about women in sport, this appears to be another example of trans women being weaponised as a political cudgel rather than any real concern about protecting women given sexual abuse of women in sport is a common problem.

Whatever.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 27/11/2025 04:46

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 04:41

Interesting. Lot's of red flags about Gaines.

Gaines complained initially about competing with trans women but as she was deployed as a right wing political operative during Trump's campaign her story 'evolved' into one about sexual assault for being in the presence of an exposed trans women in the swim change rooms. All while ignoring the environment of sexual assault & abuse of her team mates at the time by her coach who she lauded as her close friend & mentor.

Gaines only claimed much later Thomas was exposing herself in the change rooms but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

Whatever you think about women in sport, this appears to be another example of trans women being weaponised as a political cudgel rather than any real concern about protecting women given sexual abuse of women in sport is a common problem.

The comic relief has arrived 😂 I'm sorry but you do make me laugh. You'll weaponise any comment to crowbar your way onto a thread. Even an obvious joke.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/11/2025 04:43

And to think this situation could have been avoided if the man involved had respected women and not used the female changing room, whether he flashed anyone or not.

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 04:41

MistyGreenAndBlue · 27/11/2025 03:09

As long as she isn't hiding a cock, I don't care

Interesting. Lot's of red flags about Gaines.

Gaines complained initially about competing with trans women but as she was deployed as a right wing political operative during Trump's campaign her story 'evolved' into one about sexual assault for being in the presence of an exposed trans women in the swim change rooms. All while ignoring the environment of sexual assault & abuse of her team mates at the time by her coach who she lauded as her close friend & mentor.

Gaines only claimed much later Thomas was exposing herself in the change rooms but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

Whatever you think about women in sport, this appears to be another example of trans women being weaponised as a political cudgel rather than any real concern about protecting women given sexual abuse of women in sport is a common problem.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 27/11/2025 03:09

As long as she isn't hiding a cock, I don't care