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What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…

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Brewdug · 27/11/2025 00:26

This podcast appeared in my feed today via an affiliated show… I know it is naive but it’s still hard to believe how blinkered - and unbearably smug the US liberal wing is on this. This is rubbish ( from the ‘Center for Investigative Reporting’, which I now wouldn’t trust to tell me if it was raining), but still enlightening… wondered if anyone else had heard it.

A six month dig to discredit Gaines - we’re not supposed to notice that everyone they’re trying to gotcha in this won’t dignify any of it - that finds her hiding (spoiler alert) nothing?

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reveal/id886009669?i=1000738472306

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Namelessnelly · 27/11/2025 06:27

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Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:27

Soontobe60 · 27/11/2025 06:25

I don’t care about how someone’s political persuasion lies - I care about keeping men out of women’s spaces.

Fair enough but that's not what that podcast is about.

Igmum · 27/11/2025 06:27

William Thomas should never have been in the women’s changing rooms, should never have been allowed to compete against women and should not have been allowed to watch women and girls strip.

Riley Gaines is free to vote and campaign for whoever she wishes (and frankly, William Thomas and the Democrats’ insane insistence that TWAW almost certainly won Trump a fair few votes).

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:26

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 06:21

Just stop lying, you're embarrassing yourself now, give it up. We can all see on the very link what she said. You've been proven absolutely wrong. Have the grace to say 'ok, you got me on this one'.

That's not a personal admission of sighting LT's nudity.

Soontobe60 · 27/11/2025 06:25

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:24

That's because the podcast was specifically about right wing propaganda not single sex spaces. They actually make that point a couple of times at the start that the podcast makes no claims about the ethics of single sex spaces & wants to focus on the political element.

I don’t care about how someone’s political persuasion lies - I care about keeping men out of women’s spaces.

Soontobe60 · 27/11/2025 06:24

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:41

The context on this thread is whether Riley Gaines is a genuine supporter of women's rights not the ethics of single sex spaces. There are plenty of threads for that.

That Gaines campaigned ….&.exaggerated her experience for a political party who are a threat to women's rights ought to give pause in feminist spaces.

We don’t need men to tell us how to be feminists thank you.

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:24

Brewdug · 27/11/2025 06:11

I just think this ‘red flags’ idea about Gaines is absurd. This podcast - and poster here - are going after her by association because they don’t like Trump and think anyone he favours must be awful, holding her responsible for the behaviour of her male coach, and because they simply truly believe that this is just a white blonde woman being vile to another woman.

The very idea of the importance of single-sex spaces is completely ignored and Thomas’s sex is an elephant in the room, and that’s why I find this abhorrent. Like Brexit, the US left will never get itself together over Trump until they actually figure out that the people who vote for him aren’t cartoon idiots who need telling what’s what. That was one of the biggest takeaways from this exceedingly disingenuous ‘investigation’.

That's because the podcast was specifically about right wing propaganda not single sex spaces. They actually make that point a couple of times at the start that the podcast makes no claims about the ethics of single sex spaces & wants to focus on the political element.

NotBadConsidering · 27/11/2025 06:23

Only in TRA La La Land would someone think it’s a legitimate debate as to whether a man’s cock was fully out, partially out, or still covered while he was in a place he shouldn’t have been.

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 06:21

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:14

The link you gave to X/twitter doesn't say anything about Thomas & a towel.

Just stop lying, you're embarrassing yourself now, give it up. We can all see on the very link what she said. You've been proven absolutely wrong. Have the grace to say 'ok, you got me on this one'.

What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…
Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:21

CohensDiamondTeeth · 27/11/2025 06:16

What's the point? Hows admits he's a man, admits humans are male and female, admits LT is male... I mean really it's got to be clear this poster is just an MRA shouting out in the open now isn't it?

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Nice diversion from Gaines' lying but can you link where I said I was a 'man'?

I won't hold my breath.

Namelessnelly · 27/11/2025 06:20

@CohensDiamondTeeth i know. I think it takes a very er… special kind of person to come on to a feminist board and scold women for defending women’s rights. I do feel a bit sorry for those posters. That the only way they can find human engagement is by deliberately searching out topics that annoy them and try to antagonise others. I blame the demise of care in the community.

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:20

CohensDiamondTeeth · 27/11/2025 06:06

Comic relief is right! 😂

Everyone: Thomas was exposed in the changing room in front of more than RG, PS also said so.

Hows: No LT wasn't, PS just said she was forced to get changed in front of him!

Me: And that's better how exactly? (Also you're wrong... again!)

Nice try but the context of discussion was whether Gaines lied about LT's deliberate exposure not whether anyone was forced to change in LT's presence & given her team mates specifically said LT did no such thing at the swim meet in question AND no one else has backed up Gaines' version of events it would appear Gaines is lying.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 27/11/2025 06:16

What's the point? Hows admits he's a man, admits humans are male and female, admits LT is male... I mean really it's got to be clear this poster is just an MRA shouting out in the open now isn't it?

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 06:14

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:48

He changed IN FRONT of her with....no.....towel.

She said he nude, changing. That is what it means. You know it, and we know it. And we know that you know it. So stop the desperate stretching.

The link you gave to X/twitter doesn't say anything about Thomas & a towel.

Namelessnelly · 27/11/2025 06:13

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:45

What a desperate reach.

Geez, I dunno maybe a 6 foot four male bodied person might have a bulge showing in a swimsuit?

Maybe someone told her she didn't have surgery?

The facts are she has made no such claim of nudity.

Are you saying that a male person claiming to be a woman was changing in the female spaces? So if “transwomen” like LT are make, why do you think they belong in female spaces?

Brewdug · 27/11/2025 06:11

I just think this ‘red flags’ idea about Gaines is absurd. This podcast - and poster here - are going after her by association because they don’t like Trump and think anyone he favours must be awful, holding her responsible for the behaviour of her male coach, and because they simply truly believe that this is just a white blonde woman being vile to another woman.

The very idea of the importance of single-sex spaces is completely ignored and Thomas’s sex is an elephant in the room, and that’s why I find this abhorrent. Like Brexit, the US left will never get itself together over Trump until they actually figure out that the people who vote for him aren’t cartoon idiots who need telling what’s what. That was one of the biggest takeaways from this exceedingly disingenuous ‘investigation’.

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CohensDiamondTeeth · 27/11/2025 06:06

MistyGreenAndBlue · 27/11/2025 04:46

The comic relief has arrived 😂 I'm sorry but you do make me laugh. You'll weaponise any comment to crowbar your way onto a thread. Even an obvious joke.

Comic relief is right! 😂

Everyone: Thomas was exposed in the changing room in front of more than RG, PS also said so.

Hows: No LT wasn't, PS just said she was forced to get changed in front of him!

Me: And that's better how exactly? (Also you're wrong... again!)

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:56

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:41

The context on this thread is whether Riley Gaines is a genuine supporter of women's rights not the ethics of single sex spaces. There are plenty of threads for that.

That Gaines campaigned ….&.exaggerated her experience for a political party who are a threat to women's rights ought to give pause in feminist spaces.

The context on this thread is whether Riley Gaines is a genuine supporter of women's rights not the ethics of single sex spaces.

Single sex spaces are CENTRAL to womens rights. It's actually literally the lynchpin. If women don't have spaces where they are safe and comfortable when attending to their intimate (and vulnerable) needs in public, that means they withdraw from participation from society. Many women already by their own admission are self-excluding from teams, from places.

'Womens rights' means absolutely nothing if women self-exclude from society.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/11/2025 05:52

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:41

The context on this thread is whether Riley Gaines is a genuine supporter of women's rights not the ethics of single sex spaces. There are plenty of threads for that.

That Gaines campaigned ….&.exaggerated her experience for a political party who are a threat to women's rights ought to give pause in feminist spaces.

Women's rights include the right to single-sex sporting competitions and the right to single-sex changing rooms. Gaines is genuine about that, and so is the Republican Party.

There is more to women's rights than abortion access.

What's truly appalling is that there isn't a political party in the US that supports the entire gamut of women's rights.

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:48

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:46

She never claims she sighted nudity….because she didn't.

I really wish she could have just told Lia Thomas to use a towel

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:48

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:46

She never claims she sighted nudity….because she didn't.

He changed IN FRONT of her with....no.....towel.

She said he nude, changing. That is what it means. You know it, and we know it. And we know that you know it. So stop the desperate stretching.

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:46

Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan
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Nov 20, 2024

ah the classic - If you don’t like undressing with Lia Thomas… YOU need therapy. Why is he not the problem when we all raise concerns about undressing next to him? Why does he not need help to make HIM comfortable in the men’s room? Why does he not care about OUR feelings?

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Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan
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Sep 19, 2024

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Also, the “this isn’t really happening” and “it’s only a few athletes” doesn’t work anymore. If you wanna talk numbers, Lia Thomas (one singular male athlete) affected HUNDREDS of girls. To all the Ivy League swimmers, to everyone at NCAAs, and every girl at every facility we traveled to. There were even girls age group swimmers as young as 4-5 that changed with us on our training trip. One male athlete is one too many.

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:46

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:41

Scanlan described Thomas’s presence as “so incredibly uncomfortable” — and not just for her. Her fellow biologically female swimmers resorted to changing in bathroom stalls and family bathrooms for the sake of their privacy, she said.

He was changing out in the open, the girls had to hide in separate bathroom stalls to change. He had the actual change room to himself after the girls fled.

In retrospect, Scanlan said the decision to allow Thomas to change in the main locker room rather than an individual family bathroom was made without any meaningful solicitation of input from her teammates, most of whom she believes shared her reservations.
nypost.com/2023/08/01/paula-scanlan-had-nightmares-after-sharing-locker-room-with-lia-thomas/

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*Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan

hey Pablo, I was sexually assaulted as a teenager and THEN I was forced to undress with Lia Thomas in a locker room 18 times per WEEK I was on the team. He is a man. It was disgusting, violating and traumatizing. Is that enough for you to understand?*

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*Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan
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@PaulaYScanlan
not gonna lie undressing in a locker room with fully grown male “Lia” Thomas was far more abusive than forcing us to compete alongside him.*

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*Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan
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Mar 12

I really wish she could have just told Lia Thomas to use a towel

She never claims she sighted nudity….because she didn't.

Howseitgoin · 27/11/2025 05:45

EmmyFr · 27/11/2025 05:36

Your very source mentions "fully intact male genitalia". How would Scanlon be able to testify to that if Thomas had not exposed said genitalia?

What a desperate reach.

Geez, I dunno maybe a 6 foot four male bodied person might have a bulge showing in a swimsuit?

Maybe someone told her she didn't have surgery?

The facts are she has made no such claim of nudity.

ThatBlackCat · 27/11/2025 05:41

Scanlan described Thomas’s presence as “so incredibly uncomfortable” — and not just for her. Her fellow biologically female swimmers resorted to changing in bathroom stalls and family bathrooms for the sake of their privacy, she said.

He was changing out in the open, the girls had to hide in separate bathroom stalls to change. He had the actual change room to himself after the girls fled.

In retrospect, Scanlan said the decision to allow Thomas to change in the main locker room rather than an individual family bathroom was made without any meaningful solicitation of input from her teammates, most of whom she believes shared her reservations.
nypost.com/2023/08/01/paula-scanlan-had-nightmares-after-sharing-locker-room-with-lia-thomas/

and

*Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan

hey Pablo, I was sexually assaulted as a teenager and THEN I was forced to undress with Lia Thomas in a locker room 18 times per WEEK I was on the team. He is a man. It was disgusting, violating and traumatizing. Is that enough for you to understand?*

and

*Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan
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Replying to
@PaulaYScanlan
not gonna lie undressing in a locker room with fully grown male “Lia” Thomas was far more abusive than forcing us to compete alongside him.*

and

*Paula Scanlan

@PaulaYScanlan
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Mar 12

I really wish she could have just told Lia Thomas to use a towel

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