What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…

It sounds to me like you are doing similar to DARVOing and victim-blaming. Instead of just accepting I did it because the handle is quite distinctive and his attitudes were so chauvinistic and alpha male I wanted to clarify to myself their sex.

Oh important announcement everyone!

A man has arrived with some AI bullshit to tell us to ignore not only a first hand account of a woman with experience of these things, ignore the evidence of our eyes (unsurprisingly), and ignore our actual experience as women of changing into and out of a swim suit with a towel round you - spoiler alert, even with a regular swim suit it's hard enough to stop the towel falling down!

Best listen up silly wims, this dude and his AI know what they're on about... no honest! What? Why is everyone laughing?! 😂

I can say in over 20 years using MN it’s never occurred to me to search someone’s username on other platforms. That’s an exceedingly strange thing to do.

Even if he brought a one man tent into the women's changing room so no one had to see his penis (or as the OP would say, her penis), he's not going to be able to cheat his way to the medal podium by competing against women anymore.

The flashing was never the main point in competitive sports, creepy as it is (or as OP would say, validating).

AI Overview: Removing a competitive swimsuit

I'm embarrassed for you. What was that German word a bit like schadenfreude? Suffering a form of empathic cringe at seeing someone undergoing such humiliation, and imagining yourself being brought so low. Shudder.

That's because its a podcast about money & politics not the ethics of single sex spaces which would distract from the purpose. Gaines is a salient example because her views evolved over time…which is fine unless they divert from the facts which they appear to that implicates whether she really is committed to the issue at the heart of it…protecting women.

Like I said, I pity him. This is the most engagement he probably gets with women. I did once suggest he got a hobby. I was thinking line dancing or a book club. It might help his social skills.

Every time I think of Riley Gaines I think of that time she was attacked and had to barricade herself in a room to escape a mob of TRAs.

Terrified Riley Gaines 'ambushed by screaming trans activists who physically attacked her' | Daily Mail Online

Terrifying!

As well as total insanity! Especially since her only "crime" was to object to a cheating man who took the opportunity to get his penis out in front of her and her team mates, while she and her female team mates were forced to get naked in front of him.

I don't think he sees or feels any humiliation. From other threads, Howse has set off the incel alarm bells and I think he revels in this attention. I haven't decided on whether or not he actually buys into the TRA nonsense or he's just found an easy avenue to wind up women.

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And how did they get into the swimsuit that's easy to remove? Magic?

AI Overview

"Removing a competitive swimsuit typically takes
a few seconds, as they are designed to be tight-fitting but still removable without special effort. It is removed the same way any tight-fitting suit is removed, by pulling it down and off. Competitive swimsuits are not designed for long-term wear, and if a swimsuit is difficult to remove, it likely means it is the wrong size and should be replaced.
To remove: Gently pull the suit down from your torso and off your legs.
After removal: Follow the manufacturer's instructions for cleaning and care to extend the life of the suit.
If it's too difficult to remove: A swimsuit that is extremely difficult to take off is probably the wrong size and should be replaced with a new one to ensure a proper fit and to avoid damaging the suit.

Trying to restrict the discussion to some very, very narrow strip where he thinks he can get an admission (because he knows that we would be truthful about where there are grey areas - jerks do love to game non-jerks because they know non-jerks will follow the rules) to crow over.

Trying to make us completely ignore the entire context around it in order to try to make us say that non of the people explicitly said 'I solemnly swear I saw LT's penis in the changing room'.

Also knowing full well, that the whole situation is embarrassing for the girls involved, and even though they're angry, they'll still generally be trying to be polite in their speech. So saying that LT was changing with them, saying he wasn't using a towel etc. (and now seeing how you put on a competitive swimsuit!) it amounts to the same thing, but without apparently a sworn statement saying just that one thing, we can't be sure

It's such manipulative bullshit.

How are you supposed to do this while holding a towel?

And that example struggle's without the extra obstacles Thomas has...

(The line of argument I'm seeing on this thread is lower quality than the usual "fake moon landing" stuff. The guff about shadows or flags requires similar levels of ignorance or falsehoods, but at least if true they'd be undermining something fundamental - "this wasn't really on the moon". Whereas I'm failing to see the logical through line from the extraordinary claim "he didn't have his tackle out in the changing room" to "Thomas won fair and square").

First response nails it.

Yup. We only have two hands. It's absolutely impossible to both get the suit on and hold a towel around you. Even if the towel is fastened, you need to remove it to get the suit physically on you.

Hell will freeze over though before Howse ever admits he is wrong. Male trait and all. That poster would rather completely and utterly humiliate themselves on an international forum - and he knows everyone can read the thread and posts, so can see for themselves - than ever give us the (in his mind) 'satisfaction' of him admitting he got this one thing wrong. Very alpha male.

How are you supposed to do this while
holding a towel?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TPZQJ1WA48&pp=ygUhaG93IHRvIHB1dCBvbiBhIHdvbWVuJ3MgdGVjaCBzdWl00gcJCRUKAYcqIYzv

These types of posts are what keeps me coming back to MN. Thanks for the swim suit explanation, I too know nothing about competitive swimming. A quick google verified your explanation in more detail, and knowing this, there’s no way putting a tech suit on could be done under a towel.

A person with actual experience has told you how it works. But males never believe women and arrograntly think they know better than professionals. And we know that at least Paula Scanlan, per actual tweets, backed Gaines up. Time is up with the lies you post.

Bring a man is totally fine and not an insult at all, after all we give birth to them, marry them and have fathers and brothers.
What we don't want is males in females spaces.

The women didn’t feel comfortable changing in front of a man

Isn't that enough?

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU10/20230727/116284/HHRG-118-JU10-Wstate-ScanlanP-20230727.pdf

I am not going to doxx anyone. People can google your handle.

In Australia we say HOWS it going.

No......'E'.

Groovy, please post.

You do realise 'howse it goin' is the preferred greeting amongst Australians? That someone else uses it is hardly a smoking gun.

I think the behaviour is worse than a male stubborn refusal to admit he's wrong. I genuinely think the behaviour shows someone who enjoys the idea of upsetting women. He even does special italics when he thinks he's upset us, or when he says that we're fragile. He likes to use the phrase "limited" as a euphemism for stupid, which is impressive in it's tone deafness when it comes from anyone who backs an ideology so devoid of any actual intelligence 😂

IMO, that's the behaviour of someone a child who thinks he's scored a hit and is trying to rub it in. Unfortunately for people like this, it ultimately just makes them look a bit silly.