What is Riley Gaines hiding? We investigated…

Changing in the same room isn't the same as exposing nudity. You have no evidence any one other than Gaines said Lia Thomas exposed herself to the other swimmers.

Interesting. Lot's of red flags about Gaines.

Gaines complained initially about competing with trans women but as she was deployed as a right wing political operative during Trump's campaign her story 'evolved' into one about sexual assault for being in the presence of an exposed trans women in the swim change rooms. All while ignoring the environment of sexual assault & abuse of her team mates at the time by her coach who she lauded as her close friend & mentor.

Gaines only claimed much later Thomas was exposing herself in the change rooms but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

Whatever you think about women in sport, this appears to be another example of trans women being weaponised as a political cudgel rather than any real concern about protecting women given sexual abuse of women in sport is a common problem.

I think the issue was that a man was in the female changing room. It was an issue as (according to the young women there) he was exposing his genitals, and gawking at them when they were naked. This is exposure and voyeurism, which are sex offences, and apparently a loophole had been created whereby men were facilitated to inflict it on the women in this situation.

It could take up to 20 minutes to change into those swimming costumes. I think those young women must feel quite abused to have been put in that situation. All involved in doing that to them should be accessories to sex offences. Men shoudn’t get away with flashing and peeping, nor should those who enable them to do that.

False. Only Gaines claimed Thomas exposed herself. The other complaints were about Thomas' presence in the change room with individuals in the podcast claiming she was covered in a towel & kept to herself.

And you have claimed this before sighting evidence that said no such thing.

She never claims she sighted nudity….because she didn't.

Interesting. Lot's of red flags about Gaines.

Gaines complained initially about competing with trans women but as she was deployed as a right wing political operative during Trump's campaign her story 'evolved' into one about sexual assault for being in the presence of an exposed trans women in the swim change rooms. All while ignoring the environment of sexual assault & abuse of her team mates at the time by her coach who she lauded as her close friend & mentor.

Gaines only claimed much later Thomas was exposing herself in the change rooms but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

Whatever you think about women in sport, this appears to be another example of trans women being weaponised as a political cudgel rather than any real concern about protecting women given sexual abuse of women in sport is a common problem.

I am not going to doxx anyone. People can google your handle.

In Australia we say HOWS it going.

No......'E'.

It is completely fundamental to their whole ‘investigation’, and there in how they wholeheartedly commit to the pretence of Lia Thomas being a woman no different to the rest of the team. The whole podcast drips with disdain for Gaines.

Aren’t you doing the same ‘guilt by association’ here by blaming the left?

What Torres uncovers here isn’t absurd. RG does have GOP platforms, a regular spot on Fox, is on the lucrative speaking circuit, has some odd Christian nationalist and anti-immigration views, and is a vocal Trump supporter. That might sit okay with you, but not me. I’m fine with her campaigning for keeping men out of women’s sport based on her experience, even if some memories of that experience may vary, but it is the political crusading from the results that is troubling.

Interesting. Lot's of red flags about Gaines.

Gaines complained initially about competing with trans women but as she was deployed as a right wing political operative during Trump's campaign her story 'evolved' into one about sexual assault for being in the presence of an exposed trans women in the swim change rooms. All while ignoring the environment of sexual assault & abuse of her team mates at the time by her coach who she lauded as her close friend & mentor.

Gaines only claimed much later Thomas was exposing herself in the change rooms but her teams mates claim she was wrapped in a towel changing away from the others.

Whatever you think about women in sport, this appears to be another example of trans women being weaponised as a political cudgel rather than any real concern about protecting women given sexual abuse of women in sport is a common problem.

I just think this ‘red flags’ idea about Gaines is absurd. This podcast - and poster here - are going after her by association because they don’t like Trump and think anyone he favours must be awful, holding her responsible for the behaviour of her male coach, and because they simply truly believe that this is just a white blonde woman being vile to another woman.

The very idea of the importance of single-sex spaces is completely ignored and Thomas’s sex is an elephant in the room, and that’s why I find this abhorrent. Like Brexit, the US left will never get itself together over Trump until they actually figure out that the people who vote for him aren’t cartoon idiots who need telling what’s what. That was one of the biggest takeaways from this exceedingly disingenuous ‘investigation’.

Yes, but there is a specific context involved....that's what separates threads.

Changing in the same room isn't the same as exposing nudity. You have no evidence any one other than Gaines said Lia Thomas exposed herself to the other swimmers.

The context on every thread is in this section is women’s rights. I wonder whether you are a genuine supporter of women’s rights. Oh wait! I don’t.

That's the least of the "strangeness".

Purporting to be all about protecting women then turning a blind eye to their 'hero's' obvious monetisation & cover up of sexual assault tells you why stalking other commenters private lives doesn't seem immoral.

The context on this thread is whether Riley Gaines is a genuine supporter of women's rights not the ethics of single sex spaces. There are plenty of threads for that.

That Gaines campaigned ….&.exaggerated her experience for a political party who are a threat to women's rights ought to give pause in feminist spaces.

What I’m saying is it starts from a point where Gaines is simply wrong and needs bringing down. On this, she isn’t wrong. It’s a hatchet job and not a good one even for all the ‘this took us six months’ self-congratulation.

I can say in over 20 years using MN it’s never occurred to me to search someone’s username on other platforms. That’s an exceedingly strange thing to do.

I can say in over 20 years using MN it’s never occurred to me to search someone’s username on other platforms. That’s an exceedingly strange thing to do.