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Sara Morrison v BFF - thread 6

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SexRealismBeliefs · 26/11/2025 16:11

Sara Morrison v Belfast Film Festival - Employment Tribunal that took place on 10th to 21st November 2025.

It was live tweeted by Nick Wallis. Tribunal Tweets weren't allowed remote access, and no remote viewing was possible.

Background here:

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

Sara Morrison v Belfast Film Festival

Sara Morrison Sara Morrison used to be an inclusion and audience development co-ordinator working full time at Belfast Film Festival. She has an adult, trans-dentifying son. But she is a heretic. B…

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

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MistyGreenAndBlue · 05/01/2026 01:45

weegielass · 04/01/2026 17:01

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Can anyone remind me of when a judgement is expected? How many pages do we think it will be and how many errors 😁

Place your bets. I'm in for 326 pages and 19 "errors"

ProfessorBettyBooper · 04/01/2026 17:28

weegielass · 04/01/2026 17:01

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Can anyone remind me of when a judgement is expected? How many pages do we think it will be and how many errors 😁

Didn't the EJ say she'd need to discuss with the President (or something)?

weegielass · 04/01/2026 17:01

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Can anyone remind me of when a judgement is expected? How many pages do we think it will be and how many errors 😁

MarieDeGournay · 04/01/2026 16:12

That's a lovely post, AngelinaJoyless.
Here comes the drinks trolley - sláinte!Smile

AngelinaJoyless · 04/01/2026 16:06

Am hopelessly behind on all ETs, but just wanted to add my thanks and admiration to all involved, both the indomitable women who stand firm, and for the Mumsnet wims who make it all make sense. Having the critical thinking of a mushroom(menopause) means I am reliant on your fantastic intellects, and I am grateful to you all. May I grab a drink when the trolley passes? This is thirsty work.

Londonmummy66 · 11/12/2025 15:03

NebulousSupportPostcard · 10/12/2025 15:34

I've since noticed on linkedin that people tend to list expired visiting professorships on their resume, in the same way as they list previous employment roles. Because they stand as evidence of an important respectable appointment. But are obviously not a valid current title.

I've seen this on a lot of CVs and think it is helpful to see as it is normally an indication of a serious contribution to a field.

NebulousSupportPostcard · 10/12/2025 15:34

Rightsraptor · 10/12/2025 14:16

I can't remember the time scale of this, like when Mrs Boyd last fulfilled any visiting professor role, but I was struck when reading the other day when reading about Baroness Falkner. She also had has a visiting professorship (perhaps more than one) but I'm not aware of her calling herself Professor Falkner.

I think someone needs to have a word with Deb.

I've since noticed on linkedin that people tend to list expired visiting professorships on their resume, in the same way as they list previous employment roles. Because they stand as evidence of an important respectable appointment. But are obviously not a valid current title.

NebulousSupportPostcard · 10/12/2025 15:31

ProfPerfectlySoftButter · 10/12/2025 12:13

Surely all degree’s, honorary or otherwise, are a matter of public record?

TBF I’ve only bothered to check prof qualifications when appointing Trustees but what’s to stop job applicants simply making up their A levels and degrees?

One for the Information Commissioner, I’d think.

If they are an important requirement, certificates and transcripts are increasingly required to be produced. A teacher in the family had to take GCSE certificates to be copied before interview as eg Maths grade requirements have become stricter since their uni & graduation days and equivalency tests are needed if certificates not available.

ProfessorBinturong · 10/12/2025 14:47

We have no idea of the date, duration, location, or reality of Boyd's professorship. Only that she began using the title sometime between 1999 and 2004 IIRC.

Rightsraptor · 10/12/2025 14:16

I can't remember the time scale of this, like when Mrs Boyd last fulfilled any visiting professor role, but I was struck when reading the other day when reading about Baroness Falkner. She also had has a visiting professorship (perhaps more than one) but I'm not aware of her calling herself Professor Falkner.

I think someone needs to have a word with Deb.

ProfessorBinturong · 10/12/2025 12:24

There's been no suggestion or indication that she has an honorary degree, as far as know. The question was whether she'd been employed as a visiting professor. And employment records aren't necessarily a matter of public info.

ProfPerfectlySoftButter · 10/12/2025 12:13

Surely all degree’s, honorary or otherwise, are a matter of public record?

TBF I’ve only bothered to check prof qualifications when appointing Trustees but what’s to stop job applicants simply making up their A levels and degrees?

One for the Information Commissioner, I’d think.

NebulousSupportPostcard · 10/12/2025 10:42

ProfessorBinturong · 10/12/2025 09:39

I see Ulster University has replied to the FoI about Boyd with a 'no comment'. Personal info, so won't confirm anything at all.

That's really odd, as an honorary title is given precisely for the public recognition it bestows on both parties. A No Comment in that context sounds suspiciously like a "no".

ProfessorBinturong · 10/12/2025 09:39

I see Ulster University has replied to the FoI about Boyd with a 'no comment'. Personal info, so won't confirm anything at all.

SexRealismBeliefs · 27/11/2025 16:29

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 27/11/2025 16:15

Lying as a lawyer is considered to be beyond the pale because clients and the court have to rely on their word.

So even though he didn't lie about being a solicitor or barrister (as an MP did when he said he was more than a trainee solicitor), I'm not surprised he was struck off.

The terms 'solicitor' and 'barrister' are legally protected, but 'professor' isn't. Having said that, Boyd does sit in judgment (though is not a judge) in legal cases, so I would hope the Northern Ireland Tribunal Service would look poorly on her using that title.

And maybe she should be struck off the panel as a result.

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I know and agree entirely - and I think we need to treat everyone in that room to that higher standard.

Not a week goes past where someone isn't struck off for X or Y. And the 'Professor' is an out and out liar.

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ProfessorMyrtleLion · 27/11/2025 16:15

SexRealismBeliefs · 27/11/2025 16:06

This is why the 'Professor Deborah Boyd' fraud in the Tribunal room gets to me so much.

Here a trainee solicitor embellished his undergrad degree result - and was struck off and is not allowed to become a lawyer.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/magic-circle-junior-who-lied-in-his-pupillage-application-struck-off/5124995.article

Deborah runs around getting Barristers to call her Professor - and walks out of Tribunal with nary a consequence. She called herself a Judge in that video. I'll wait to see what comes from the UU FOI but it shouldn't be allowed to stand.

Lying as a lawyer is considered to be beyond the pale because clients and the court have to rely on their word.

So even though he didn't lie about being a solicitor or barrister (as an MP did when he said he was more than a trainee solicitor), I'm not surprised he was struck off.

The terms 'solicitor' and 'barrister' are legally protected, but 'professor' isn't. Having said that, Boyd does sit in judgment (though is not a judge) in legal cases, so I would hope the Northern Ireland Tribunal Service would look poorly on her using that title.

And maybe she should be struck off the panel as a result.

SexRealismBeliefs · 27/11/2025 16:06

This is why the 'Professor Deborah Boyd' fraud in the Tribunal room gets to me so much.

Here a trainee solicitor embellished his undergrad degree result - and was struck off and is not allowed to become a lawyer.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/magic-circle-junior-who-lied-in-his-pupillage-application-struck-off/5124995.article

Deborah runs around getting Barristers to call her Professor - and walks out of Tribunal with nary a consequence. She called herself a Judge in that video. I'll wait to see what comes from the UU FOI but it shouldn't be allowed to stand.

Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal sign

Magic circle junior who lied in his pupillage application struck off

Former Slaughter and May associate claimed to have won prize for best overall performance during his final Cambridge year.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/magic-circle-junior-who-lied-in-his-pupillage-application-struck-off/5124995.article

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MistyGreenAndBlue · 27/11/2025 03:15

anyolddinosaur · 26/11/2025 21:32

Mistygreenandblue - cant tag you as you havent posted here yet but to respond to your comment on the last thread. Naomi cant be everywhere but she does seem pretty good at organising court dates so she can get to quite a few places.

True true and I daresay she would have organised it somehow

WFTCHTJ · 27/11/2025 01:15

Thanks for the new thread and all the linky stuff.

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 26/11/2025 22:25

Very nice end to Thread 5.

Beautifully done.

anyolddinosaur · 26/11/2025 21:32

Mistygreenandblue - cant tag you as you havent posted here yet but to respond to your comment on the last thread. Naomi cant be everywhere but she does seem pretty good at organising court dates so she can get to quite a few places.

SexRealismBeliefs · 26/11/2025 18:40

mackerella · 26/11/2025 17:52

(This is not a proper post! Just that the link to thread five in the OP takes you only to the posts by @SexRealismBeliefs. The link to the whole thread is https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5446619-sara-morrison-v-bff-thread-5)

Woopsies 😳

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ProfessorMyrtleLion · 26/11/2025 17:14

Please fill up thread 5 before starting here. ❤️

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