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Sharron Davies and Tracy Edwards on GMB

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ItsCoolForCats · 24/11/2025 11:41

From about 8.15 this morning. They were wonderful and did their usual sterling job of laying out why women and girls deserve fair sports.

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spannasaurus · 24/11/2025 13:25

ItsCoolForCats · 24/11/2025 12:24

I saw a clip on social media of Piers Morgan arguing with Dr. Amir about this issue and Lorraine Kelly kept quiet and let Piers make his points.

I don't really watch ITV, but I think it's been worse than the BBC on this. I know Loose Women is appalling. But maybe now that the BBC's very obvious bias in not adequately acknowledging how trans demands infringe women's rights has been called out, maybe other media outlets will attempt more balanced coverage. Too much to hope?

Lorraine made a very shocked face when Piers said that 1000 women had lost out medals/places to men. I wasn't sure if this was genuine shock or not

ItsCoolForCats · 24/11/2025 12:24

FaithHopeCarnage · 24/11/2025 12:09

I saw this - Sharon in particular was really impressive. There was pushback from the presenters (Susanna Reid and Ed Balls) but it came across to me as being more from a position of benign ignorance rather than outright TRA support (unlike Lorraine Kelly). Sharon hammered home the “pro women not anti trans”, and drew parallels with the East German situation in the 70s. I thought her arguments were brilliantly targeted and totally refuted the rather meagre lines of positioning/questioning.

I saw a clip on social media of Piers Morgan arguing with Dr. Amir about this issue and Lorraine Kelly kept quiet and let Piers make his points.

I don't really watch ITV, but I think it's been worse than the BBC on this. I know Loose Women is appalling. But maybe now that the BBC's very obvious bias in not adequately acknowledging how trans demands infringe women's rights has been called out, maybe other media outlets will attempt more balanced coverage. Too much to hope?

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ItsCoolForCats · 24/11/2025 12:20

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/11/2025 11:52

Aren't they great? What kind of reception did they get?

Some fairly mild pushback from the presenters, but they refuted it really well. Ed Balls was doing the usual thing of saying it shouldn't be a blanket policy, and Tracy made the point that women shouldn't have to keep arguing against this exception and that exception etc. If a female category exits, then that is the baseline, and it is up to men to work out how to make the men's/open category more inclusive.

And there was a clip of a sad transwomen who was having a sulk about not being able to play women's cricket anymore. Apparently, protecting the female category is "going backwards". 🙄

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FaithHopeCarnage · 24/11/2025 12:09

I saw this - Sharon in particular was really impressive. There was pushback from the presenters (Susanna Reid and Ed Balls) but it came across to me as being more from a position of benign ignorance rather than outright TRA support (unlike Lorraine Kelly). Sharon hammered home the “pro women not anti trans”, and drew parallels with the East German situation in the 70s. I thought her arguments were brilliantly targeted and totally refuted the rather meagre lines of positioning/questioning.

Scout2016 · 24/11/2025 12:04

Possibly old news on here but I recommend the documentary Maiden about Tracy leading the first all women team to compete in a massive sailing race event. All the media attention with support and sexist naysayers, as well as the event itself - really interesting.
I got it second hand on dvd but it might be on streaming channels.

lolly427 · 24/11/2025 11:58

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 11:54

Thanks @ItsCoolForCats They are both so clear, so logical, so coherent.

Sharron was on Free Speech Nation last night and did a fantastic job presenting the case for women's sports (the presenter was also clearly a bit star-struck!)

A comment from a TRA this morning: the funniest part about Sharon Davies is, her body is more masculine than most cis men

So it IS all about appearance! But hang on, I thought it wasn't meant to be all about appearance? And 'Sharron looks like a bloke' is an insult?? So much mixed-up thinking here...

Wow what a low life, when you've having to resort to personal insults then it's clear you've completely lost the argument.

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 11:54

Thanks @ItsCoolForCats They are both so clear, so logical, so coherent.

Sharron was on Free Speech Nation last night and did a fantastic job presenting the case for women's sports (the presenter was also clearly a bit star-struck!)

A comment from a TRA this morning: the funniest part about Sharon Davies is, her body is more masculine than most cis men

So it IS all about appearance! But hang on, I thought it wasn't meant to be all about appearance? And 'Sharron looks like a bloke' is an insult?? So much mixed-up thinking here...

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/11/2025 11:52

Aren't they great? What kind of reception did they get?

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