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Jolyon's misogyny on show again

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deadpan · 24/11/2025 06:52

The "kimono fox killer" refers to Hadley Freeman's writing style as "warm fluffy" in an attempt to discredit her comments or writing about gender issues.
Since when has writing about the awful condition of anorexia, amongst many other things, been warm and fluffy jolyon?

https://x.com/HadleyFreeman/status/1992531703387111709?s=20

Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) on X

Love getting career and life advice from the kimono fox killer. Unsurprising that a man who worships gender stereotypes prefers women to write “warm, fluffy columns.” But only one of us went so mad as to believe men can be women and it wasn’t me, bucko

https://x.com/HadleyFreeman/status/1992531703387111709?s=20

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Lalgarh · 09/01/2026 01:44

Not sure if this has already been mentioned elsewhere, but he appears to have fled Twitter

lcakethereforeIam · 25/11/2025 19:27

So keen to bludgeon that fox to death he couldn't take a moment to get dressed. Talk about a Boxing Day cunt Hunt.

DrRevProfCriticalConditionETC · 25/11/2025 16:51

DeanElderberry · 25/11/2025 16:44

Don't sell him short, darting round at night wearing a woman's kimono whileattacking wildlife.

Let's get this right, darting around wearing a too small woman's kimono while attacking wildlife.

DeanElderberry · 25/11/2025 16:44

hholiday · 25/11/2025 15:29

Hadley’s ‘descent into madness’ huh?! She’s a mum of three whose career has gone from strength to strength. She is writing some of the most touching, witty and insightful columns in the British press for our best-known newspaper.

I think she won the press awards broadsheet columnist of the year about a year after moving to the Sunday times and her memoir on anorexia has also been shortlisted for several awards.

Meanwhile, there’s JM losing court cases and darting round at night attacking wildlife. Which one sounds like they’ve lost it?

Don't sell him short, darting round at night wearing a woman's kimono whileattacking wildlife.

hholiday · 25/11/2025 15:29

Hadley’s ‘descent into madness’ huh?! She’s a mum of three whose career has gone from strength to strength. She is writing some of the most touching, witty and insightful columns in the British press for our best-known newspaper.

I think she won the press awards broadsheet columnist of the year about a year after moving to the Sunday times and her memoir on anorexia has also been shortlisted for several awards.

Meanwhile, there’s JM losing court cases and darting round at night attacking wildlife. Which one sounds like they’ve lost it?

Datun · 25/11/2025 12:35

DeanElderberry · 25/11/2025 07:43

A woman who has written about recovering from Anorexia (which iirc has one of the highest fatality rates of any mental illness) knows about madness, and knows how not to be mad.

He does despise women doesn't he? And obviously feels very jealous of HF's skill and style and wit.

It must have been pretty hellish to be female with a father with those attitudes.

Insightful post.

Beowulfa · 25/11/2025 12:02

SionnachRuadh · 24/11/2025 10:47

Gaultier has been off the boil for quite a while. A few years ago he was selling a men's scent, with a rather arresting advert featuring shirtless sailors on a boat. I was disappointed that it had one of those very generic names they give to men's scents, and was not called "Hello Sailor". The Gaultier of Eurotrash vintage would not have missed an open goal like that.

Slight derail, but a metaller friend of mine who's got into whisky enjoyed a review on a whisky-tasting forum, which gave Rammstein's rum 0 out of 5 for the ridiculous fail of not being called Rumstein.

Hadley has always been ascerbic as well as funny.

DeanElderberry · 25/11/2025 07:43

A woman who has written about recovering from Anorexia (which iirc has one of the highest fatality rates of any mental illness) knows about madness, and knows how not to be mad.

He does despise women doesn't he? And obviously feels very jealous of HF's skill and style and wit.

It must have been pretty hellish to be female with a father with those attitudes.

Floisme · 25/11/2025 07:02

Did she also do the Lost in Show Business page? Or was that Marina Hyde? Or maybe they both worked on it. Anyway it was also never warm or fluffy - the takedowns of Sting were joyous.

RayonSunrise · 25/11/2025 06:01

I used to adore Hadley Freeman’s fashion column. It was never warm or fluffy!

BunfightBetty · 25/11/2025 00:14

SionnachRuadh · 24/11/2025 10:29

Also, I am not a fashion critic, but perhaps Jolyon should get himself a new profile pic, possibly with his new bouffant hairdo and designer specs, because that orange t-shirt one looks uncomfortably like an Epstein mugshot.

Yes! He does. I’m not going to unsee that now. But then, it’s probably less queasy-making a mental image than imagining him in the kimono. Utter tool that he is.

lcakethereforeIam · 24/11/2025 12:18

Man who thinks humans can change sex accuses someone else (who doesn't) of 'descent into madness'!

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 11:29

I wonder if JM still has that gown? 🤔

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/11/2025 11:27

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 10:43

I laughed at this bit in the Guardian article that Floisme posted:

Similarly, my Gaultier ban was prompted by a review of a particularly fur-heavy couture collection in 2006 in which I suggested that "rarely can an animal have died in vain as sadly as did the fox, whose top half, head to tail, was splayed across an evening gown".

Quite!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/11/2025 11:26

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 10:31

The TRAs on reddit said the same thing about Epstein @SionnachRuadh . Good to know we can all agree on certain points!

Haha I agree with them, for the first time ever 😂

Womanofcustard · 24/11/2025 11:23

SionnachRuadh · 24/11/2025 10:29

Also, I am not a fashion critic, but perhaps Jolyon should get himself a new profile pic, possibly with his new bouffant hairdo and designer specs, because that orange t-shirt one looks uncomfortably like an Epstein mugshot.

I think he looks more like Lee Anderson every day!

SionnachRuadh · 24/11/2025 10:47

Gaultier has been off the boil for quite a while. A few years ago he was selling a men's scent, with a rather arresting advert featuring shirtless sailors on a boat. I was disappointed that it had one of those very generic names they give to men's scents, and was not called "Hello Sailor". The Gaultier of Eurotrash vintage would not have missed an open goal like that.

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 10:43

I laughed at this bit in the Guardian article that Floisme posted:

Similarly, my Gaultier ban was prompted by a review of a particularly fur-heavy couture collection in 2006 in which I suggested that "rarely can an animal have died in vain as sadly as did the fox, whose top half, head to tail, was splayed across an evening gown".

PrettyDamnCosmic · 24/11/2025 10:37

helluvatime · 24/11/2025 08:14

"But I wasn't talking about Paul Smith himself, I was talking about the clothes, such as suggesting that skirts that ended mid-calf weren't flattering and that orange and green as a combination made you look like a carrot."

😂 Perhaps Jolyon should reread this article - not only because it is brilliant but because it would do him good to see that excellent writing doesn’t have to be fluffy and that it is quite possible to disagree with someone without making it into something personal.

Back in 2008 Jolyon’s job was assisting rich people to pay as little tax as possible.

Thortour · 24/11/2025 10:31

Women refusing to do as the fox killer requires! Shocking.
Appalling man.

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 10:31

The TRAs on reddit said the same thing about Epstein @SionnachRuadh . Good to know we can all agree on certain points!

SionnachRuadh · 24/11/2025 10:29

Also, I am not a fashion critic, but perhaps Jolyon should get himself a new profile pic, possibly with his new bouffant hairdo and designer specs, because that orange t-shirt one looks uncomfortably like an Epstein mugshot.

Greyskybluesky · 24/11/2025 08:51

Floisme · 24/11/2025 07:35

Hadley’s fashion column used to be anything but warm and fluffy. She was as sharp and on the nose then as she is now. If I remember corrrctly, at least one designer banned her from his shows because of unflattering comments.

I doubt Jolyon ever read a single word - all he’ll know is that she used to write about fashion and he’ll have put in her in a box in that basis.

Spot on, Floisme.

And thanks for the Guardian article link, from way back when I used to read it.

The emperor's new clothes indeed!

teawamutu · 24/11/2025 08:40

Curious: at what point was JM's misogyny ever hidden?

Amazing that he's both managed to reveal that he either never read Hadley's columns, or wasn't perceptive enough to appreciate the sharpness, AND that he preferred the 'little woman stays in the talking about dear little kittens and shoes' trope in a single sentence.

Every time I think he can't be more of a dick etc etc etc.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 24/11/2025 08:19

Headline news - Kimono Fox Killer not fit to Lick the Boots of Kick-Ass Woman Writer. 👊

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