19th November is International Men's Day

I do fully understand why you're asking this question because IMD has been co opted and weaponised at times over the years by misogynistic movements but in its essence IMD is aligned with the feminist movement as a movement that strives for equity and equality between both genders and recognises that there are certain areas men need support with that tie in to womens issues.

If you feel this is just a goady poster then I wouldn't give them the opportunity to derail what's otherwise a really positive opportunity for promoting equity between genders and I'd just ignore them.

There are also about 1000 other topics. Why Feminism?

I also fully agree with this, but then equally I am raising a son and I'm very conscious I'm raising him into a society that doesn't currently have the infrastructure in place to support and equip young men to make healthier or safer choices (because men haven't created it in the way women have for themselves) and I don't feel it's my place as his parent to sit back and say that work isn't for me to do. I think that's a hard balance to strike because no its not SOLELY womens problems to fix, but we also can't pretend we're not affected by it and in the ideal society men and women will pull together to better support one another as equals. I don't think stepping back necessarily is the right option either.

Completely agree, I think there are lots of challenges in life women have that men won't face either to the same extent or in the same way but there are also quite significant concerns that affect men moreso than women so I see no reason not to have a IMD to highlight those issues. My workplace do events for both every year and use it as an opportunity to platform key issues that affect men and women according to the event. Today was focused around positive masculinity, men's health, men's mental health and positive male role models in society.

I'm OK with it being here - men are a major factor in women's lives, even if, like me, you don't have close relationships with them.
If men sorted themselves out a bit, it would make our lives better!

Any particular reason for posting that here in particular? Maybe you should put it on the Dadsnet board?

Good luck to them. Men have lots of issues in life and I wish them well with dealing with them.

One of the big challenges facing boys and men is toxic masculinity: the extreme stereotypes that limit boy's emotional growth and are toxic to their development as full human beings.

You'd imagine that freeing boys and men from toxic masculinity would be seen as an important way to improve their lives.
Bizarrely, challenging toxic masculinity is taken as an attack on boys and men - even mentioning it is bad because it makes men 'feel bad about themselves'

Like 'toxic masculinity' is a good thing, which sons and brothers and husbands are entitled to, rather than something negative and dangerous which damages boys and men.

IMD would also be a good day to promote groups like the White Ribbon Group
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Artmumcreative - your mum hit the nail on the head! Women's refuges and rape crisis centres were not presented to us on a velvet cushion, and men wouldn't face a fraction of the opposition and abuse that women had to go through.

My DH was once talking to me and my mum about domestic violence that a man in his family had experienced at the hands of a woman, and asked why men's refuges don't exist. My mum's answer: "well, women set up women's refuges... Men need to set up their own". Men seem to expect women to do everything for them 🙄

What i used to do, with a group of feminist friends, was to tweet resources for women's health, VAWAG etc etc, on 8th March.
And all the manbabys would be "wah wah when is men's day" "how come you don't do anything for men's day" (WTF?) and "wah wah nobody does anything for men's day"

So. We used to tweet resources (mostly about men's mental health and the CALM (Campaign against living miserably) type of thing. And sometimes we would contact the "wah wah wah" accounts and say "LOOK! it's your day, what are you doing for it?"

And you know what? some men, clearly, were taking notice and doing things. But mostly? either crickets or more abuse. Or complaints that women hadn't organised anything.

So this year? I've retweeted a couple of things. But meh. They need to want to do it themselves. Start something themselves. Get off their backsides.

There is a reason married men live longer and single women are happier, on the whole. But i am now leaving men's day to men. And concentrating on women. Women's health. Women's rights.

Me and my female friends celebrate IWD. Men don't do it for us.

I'm fairly sure men can celebrate and don't need MummyNet to do their celebrating for them.

Everyday is mens day