"Firstly, let’s make sure we are both talking about the same thing: what do you think I’m referring to by ‘no debate’?"
Depends on who is saying it. Trans activists use it to correctly to make the point human right's shouldn't up for 'debate'. Bad faith interlocutors like JK Rowling cynically misrepresent this concept as censorship.
"Secondly, the suffragists and suffragettes: in Britain there was extensive coverage in the media and petitions and debates in parliament from
1860s onwards from both sides."
False.
"In 1912 Emmeline Pankhurst addressed the difficult relationship women in the suffrage campaign experienced with the press. She approached the stand at the Old Bailey and explained that, ‘..then in 1905 we faced the hard facts. We realised that there was a press boycott against women’s suffrage. Our speeches at public meetings were not reported, our letters to the editors were not published, even if we implored the editors; even the things relating to Women’s Suffrage in Parliament were not recorded. They said the subject was not of sufficient public interest to be reported in the press, and they were not prepared to report it’. This speech confirms categorically the existence of a press war between suffrage and anti-suffrage advocates.
Vital to spreading information about their cause, print press media became an invaluable source for those fighting for and against the progression of women’s emancipation. Nevertheless, historical intervention concerning the women’s suffrage movement has traditionally focused on books and biographies written by leaders of the movement rather than the multitude of texts in the print press media. Many of these books, although considered primary sources, were often written up to ten years after the suffrage movement. As it was only the higher classes that had the money and influence to take a book to publication, our understanding has become dictated by the voices of the middle and upper-classes resulting in the opinions of many lower-classes being disregarded. Consequently, it is inevitable that opinions and information will be missed, whether accidentally or on purpose.
The suffrage movement seemed to act as a catalyst for newspapers to represent women negatively. It received a tirade of negative press from the most widely read newspapers such as The Times, The Pall Mall Gazette, and The Telegraph. Suffragist women were ‘masculine’, the men were ‘effeminate’, and suffragettes were ‘feral’, ‘aggressive’, and ‘irrational’.
https://aspectsofhistory.com/iwd-the-press-and-womens-suffrage/
And again, you seem totally unaware that Twitter heavily suppressed this issue so that grassroots accounts couldn’t talk freely on it until post 2022. Using sex-based terminology was a bannable offence.
JKR has been at it for 5 years now so that's pre Elon:
In a tweet in 2019, Rowling stood with Forstater: "Dress however you please," she said on X. "Live your best life in peace and security. But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?"
"And again, you seem totally unaware that Twitter heavily suppressed this issue so that grassroots accounts couldn’t talk freely on it until post 2022. Using sex-based terminology was a bannable offence.
Given all of JKR's pre Elon tweets passed muster because she implicitly dehumanised & demonised transpeople via dog whistles rather than explicitly as is the case now, its fair to say it was overt hate speech that was censored.
"You are the one using the word censorship not me. I’ve talked about suppression. But OK, let’s talk about censorship: are you saving that Twitter policies on that point are not a form of censorship? Or the BBC’s style guide and actions? Or the (old) Equal Treatment Bench Book rules?"
Sure, hate speech was suppressed. But yeah, I get how that may appear as censorship for the unconscionable….
"Fifthly, this being a ‘right wing plan’ all along to funnel women to white nationalism? Engage with the evidence please. Who has planned this ‘all along’ and since when? Not the UK media as we’ve covered above. The conservative government that sought to introduce self-ID? The following one that hugely increased non-white immigration? Or the one after that (did Rishi Sunak really lead a white nationalist government)?"
Right wing parties seeking election trot out the trans bogeyman like clock work as do all their many powerful media operatives. That you think there's no such thing as the right wing propaganda complex with their usual suspects of LGBTQ 'degenerate' fear mongering is cute & maybe a function of being a hapless/willing victim of it.