Man who transitioned to female sues expert for discrimination after being told breastfeeding was delusional

Good question. If it all cool, bonding, healthy, why isn't there an NHS National campaign being rolled out to get dads to step up.

Agree.

If this is all okay, nothing to see here, why do we not encourage non trans identifying fathers to induce lactation in order to support the mother and support bonding between father and baby?

Yes. it's shocking.

I went to komedia at christmas
Several times while i was in there men walked into the womens as they arent labelled mens and womens but something like 8 urinals and 3 cubicals on one door and 6 cubicals on another door. One woman was upset coming out to a bloke at the sink - he said he didnt realise it was the womens (this wasnt a transwoman - just a regular bloke not understanding which loo was for men and which for women as it no longer actually says any more)

And to top it off at the end of the night two people were loudly shagging in the stall next to me which was lovely to hear in the ladies loo

Police should be checking his hard drive and smart devices.

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Why is it that a bloke trying to force a baby to suck his (non-milk-producing) nipples for his own personal gratification (not providing nutrition for the baby) not instantly recognised as child abuse? Any substance that can be medically induced to leak from male nipples (which does happen, usually when the man has certain unfortunate illnesses) is not going to be milk and is going to be full of potentially harmful chemical residues from the drugs and no responsible parent would want to feed such a substance to their precious child. There are no milk ducts there. The child should be removed and placed with a fister carer or adoptive family who are capable of prioritising the child's wellbeing over their own self-gratification.

The father is abusing his own child, sadly not an uncommon offence.

I am more shocked by the authorities who are supporting this. Sane adults who have a responsibility to protect children, especially those with parents who won’t protect them. Instead they are pandering to an abuser. Shameful.

Non-gestational mothers often induce lactation, including after adoption or surrogacy and also lesbian parents.

In the UK, the NHS does not offer the induced lactation protocol, but staff are familiar with it and able to give support to women who are receiving the protocol privately.

We planned that I would go through the protocol as a back up but would pump rather than feed, so our baby would have the benefit of her gestational mother’s superior milk, but with my milk available once my wife went back to work which she had to do at 5 months.

In the event, my wife was unable to breastfeed and after two weeks working unsuccessfully with multiple lactation consultants her milk dried up completely, so I had to take over much earlier than planned.

I’m glad we did it and on balance, after reading all the research, I think our daughter benefited from having induced breast milk from me rather than formula only.

However, I found that the breast feeding world generally was much too casual about the process. There is some evidence about the quality of milk from induced lactation (in women) and the risks to babies from the medication, but it was hard to make a scientific judgement about the overall benefit of induced, medicated milk over formula. Some HCPs also understated the risks of a protocol which is demanding and sometimes dangerous to the woman using it.

Overall I found both the NHS and private professionals I spoke to (doctors, midwives, psychologists) placed a very high value on the bonding with me of breast feeding and quite low value on the relative nutritional benefits and risks to baby of induced milk. They mostly thought it odd that I didn’t plan to breast feed until my wife had stopped, and assumed our baby would benefit roughly the same from either mother’s milk, at least after the end of my wife’s colostrum.

For me, the current level of knowledge suggests that induced lactation should only be considered as a back up when natural lactation is not possible. I would like proper research to be done comparing induced to non-induced milk at every stage for at least the first year, both quality and quantity, so that women who are considering induced lactation have all the information to make good decisions.

Proponents of male breast-feeding seem to me to start from a misunderstanding about what we know about induced lactation in women. I suspect many HCPs want to be supportive of non-gestational mothers and so overstate the evidence out of love, but at root is an institutional carelessness towards babies’ and women’s health which women should not accept even when it is dressed up as inclusion of adoptive and lesbian mothers.

This one?

https://eprints.gla.ac.uk/300608/2/300608.pdf

Sally Hines was involved.

Most pregnant women are fully onboard with protecting their unborn child from harm. Men with a fetish, not so much.
It's criminal that these men have been centred by so many in society - especially in the dysfunctional NHS.

Yeah, I was warned off suncream as it hadn't been tested on pregnant women!

This is a small aside, but for anyone who wonders about the control of women's bodies and medicine during pregnancy and breastfeeding compared to the free rein given to this man: (I may have posted this already , it sticks in my mind)

I had hay fever while pregnant (not bf to be fair) and was told I shouldn't use eye drops with a 2% active ingredient in case it would be detrimental to the baby as it hadn't been tested on pregnant women. EYE DROPS.

This man is given a cocktail of hormones and chemicals that will deliberately create this secretion and that's ok? He's encouraged to and lauded for forcing the new born to suckle. That's one of the worst things I've ever heard on many levels

I haven't read the full thread and am not going to get into conversations with people who support the sexual abuse of babies as it makes me feel sick. I hope the info below is useful.

Lactophilia (men wanting babies to suck their nipples ) is a male sexual porn fetish. CSA of infants is thankfully illegal in the UK.

The drugs needed for men to do this are harmful to babies. A couple of years ago a UK NHS Dr wrote to the Children of Transitioners group supporting this practice and lying drug induced Galactorrhea from men is the same as mothers' milk. As this is a lie the Dr then faced GMC/ NHS England intervention/ investigation after the Cots group and medical specialists raised safeguarding concerns with the then Health Secretary, and the NHS confirmed their advice on inducing breastfeeding was only ever supposed to apply to (biological) women/mothers, not men. (The BBC never reported this fallout - it does not fit their trans bias!). However in other countries abuse of babies and children by trans activists has been left unchecked.

Various GC groups campaigned for the NHS England website to be amended (eg now all links to La leche League, who support this abuse of babies, have been removed). There are still ongoing issues, eg read Milli Hill or see
https://biologyinmedicine.substack.com/p/chestfeeding-is-harmful-to-babies

It is horrifying to see some countries allowing all abuse of babies, children and women, if extreme trans activists want it, and punishing all adults (including health professionals) trying to safeguard the vulnerable. Eventually I hope those enforcing this abuse face justice, but the situation at present is awful.

Adding to this, the latest fall out for anyone in roles vulnerable to complaints being targeted by Buckley.

https://x.com/Jilliantweeting/status/2028421138158932010?s=20

'Overreach': Health regulator silences top psychiatrist for posts on gender medicine Prominent psychiatrist Andrew Amos has been banned from questioning gender-affirming treatment for children on social media after complaints from trans activists.

STEPHEN RICE March 2, 2026 - 7:14PM
in The Australian

"A prominent Australian psychiatrist who has warned of the risks of gender- affirming medical treatment for children and teenagers has been banned from posting his objections on social media and had restrictions put on his practice by the health regulator.

Queensland psychiatrist Andrew Amos has been ordered by the Medical Board of Australia and the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency to stop making online statements about gender issues and is barred from having direct clinical contact with any patients.

Dr Amos's supporters say the move is a warning to medical professionals who might consider speaking out publicly against gender-affirming treatment for minors, and that it represents a gross overreach by regulators in response to complaints by trans activists.

Dr Amos is an academic psychiatrist at James Cook University and chair of the Queensland Section of Rural Psychiatry with the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists but has been at odds with the RANZCP over gender medicine, arguing that the gender-affirming model of care is incompatible with evidence-based practice.

Under the restrictions, Dr Amos must provide AHPRA with details of all his social media profiles to show he has not posted any comments "in relation to gender medicine, gender identity and/or expression and transgender persons". Also, he cannot practise except at an "approved" location and is barred from "any role requiring direct or indirect clinical patient contact". The condition does not affect him while he is working as an academic but would be severely limiting if he returned to clinical practice. It is understood the conditions were imposed in response to four complaints, the first following controversy over the case of transwoman Jennifer Buckley, who had transitioned from male to female and used a combination of hormones and drugs to bring on lactation to breastfeed her son.

In September 2024, Dr Amos said in a post on X that men who induced lactation were the embodiment of narcissism but did not refer directly to Ms Buckley."

And it goes on ...

Re. The real mother's role in this case : I definitely suspect abuse from the man, especially as she's got MS which would make her more vulnerable (as would pregnancy & caring for an infant).

Otoh I don't think we should always assume the woman is a victim of abuse in cases like this. In itself, transitioning while demanding relationship continue unchanged is abusive. But otoh I've come across a few cases where the women seemed to collude willingly, though of course that's suspect.

Otoh, I think that when an abused woman begins abetting her fetishistic husband's desire to make their child, and other women, props for his fetish, she crosses a moral line from being a victim of abuse to being an enabler as well

Sorry, to clarify, I meant number 1. Definitely do not believe the second option!

Man posts on social media something potentially harmful to his baby. Healthcare expert objects. Healthcare expect gets sacked and sued for discrimination. Man carries on.

I wouldn't usually support calling someone trans "delusional" but this case ('mens breast milk is the same as a woman's despite being on different drugs') it basically is by definition.

He's not a woman. He can't be a woman. He is on drugs to specifically suppress testosterone and noone knows the impact of this on the baby - it may well even effect babies brain development from the little I know about sex hormones.

And many actual woman can't or don't breastfeed because they are on certain medication and don't know if it would be safe, much as they would like to. It doesn't somehow make them less woman but the opposite.

Putting your baby's health ahead of your own selfish desires = motherhood.

Im not sure whether you are pointing out that it's not just lesbian non birth mums who need to stimulate lactation, straight women do too, or whether you're saying because women sometimes need assistance to stimulate lactation so what's the problem if men do it?

To clarify, the women in the article (adoptive, non birth mums) are women, not men. Its not really relevant to lactation whether they are lesbians or not, they're women who haven't given birth.

But sometimes birth mums also need drugs to stimulate lactation.

Women don't need to take androgen suppressants like males do.

Women need much lower amounts of drugs to stimulate lactation and are advised to stop several days before starting feeding so that they're not present in the milk. Males trying to 'breastfeed' need to continue to take vast amounts of drugs during the entire process.

Agreed 👍

Nail on head

It doesn't matter what they believe.

Yes.

It's fair to point out that straight women who've adopted kids or used a surrogate are also recorded to have done this. I feel uneasy (don't agree with surrogacy either).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/infant-and-toddler-health/expert-answers/induced-lactation/faq-20058403&ved=2ahUKEwj7toPd8O2QAxX4XEEAHdIcLccQFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1svTkWXJlS1M8Ll3NFql15