Anyone wanting to support greens but really stuck on their trans beliefs and policies?

I'm stuck on the Polanski being a hypnotist, thinking he can hypnotise women to having bigger breasts... Bloke is an absolute grifter.

I'll be voting independent from here on.

As pp's, there are a whole list of reasons why I wouldn't vote green. They are extreme Left wing loons with very little actual understanding of anything, let alone biology.

Did she object to soldiers being housed there too?

Most voters aren't party members. Most members don't attend conferences.

Most people who put a tick in the box do so because they want green issues prioritised.

Unfortunately, that's not what they're actually voting for.

Ex member of both GPEW and SGP.

I'm afraid that although there are many good and sensible and very principled people in the Greens, the party/ies have been taken over by zealots who have very little interest in environmental issues.

I consider a party actively harmful to the environment, when it purports to be 'the' environmental party, but in fact does nothing to either promote good practise or counter harmful environmental issues.

If you are still tempted to vote Green have a look at how the Scottish Green party have performed in government- screwed up the deposit return scheme on recyclable bottles (gov now being sued by Biffa), voted against victims of rape being able to chose the sex of their medical examiner, banned new wood burning stoves despite gov reports showing them to be a low CO2 option, part and parcel of the ferries disaster and escalating violence in schools...
They are a bunch of incompetents who are not fit to be MPs or MSPs.

I voted green every single election (both in general and local) from when I was 18 until 5 years ago when they made clear that they chose men with fetishes over the safety of women.

. They are losing the support of people with strong environmental beliefs because they’d rather prioritise the blue haired brigade. Totally insane choice but nothing I can do about it.

I'm v worried about such a split left wing vote and what that means for reform however.

I probably broadly agree with them on drugs (from a harm prevention POV) and Palestine. I need to look more at their other policies. Are they keeping the gender bollocks stuff slightly quiet? I know a lot of people quite interested in them currently who definitely aren't into gender bollocks.

I’m stuck on the complete lack of reality they demonstrate. Does anyone really think they are fit to form a government or even be part of a coalition.

I am in agreement. I cannot vote Green while they cannot respect womens needs for safe spaces. True Transwomen I have no issue with, but allowing any man the chance to self identify as a women, to gain access to womens spaces is just bonkers.

Aside from unscientific gender-woo, I do not want to vote for a party that contains so many people obsessed with Palestine. Of course MPs and councillors can express concerns about foreign policy, but their time should be prioritised for local issues impacting their constituents. Then national concerns if they're an MP.

I don't think many people entering politics realise quite how mundane much of it actually is; bin collections, residential parking, planning permission, adult social care etc. Boring and unglamorous, but essential. Not much time left over for flag waving and chanting.

I would think really carefully about the Green drugs policy as well

I completely understand the argument about bodily autonomy

I think the reality of increasing levels of drug use is pretty grim though. I've seen it in the US as well as here.

there's a lot of issues with the Greens but people seem to think it's a party that's got strong connections with the environment. It never has. I remember one of their prominent London leaders going everywhere by taxi when it was a reasonable walk or an easy bus journey. This is back in the day where taxis were belching out fumes.

I'm an old - a very old - hippie. But this is barking mad. I do have a vague memory of the Federation of Conservative Students proposing this back in the 80s. It's just a business to them , likewise prostitution. A Tory with a spliff is still a Tory. But whatever about a spliff , legalising the awful synthetic opioids is not going to be a vote winner.

They are the absolute extreme end of trans activism

rhey are pro pimp

they want to legalise all drugs

their leader thinks he can hypnotise women’s breasts to grow

they make student politics look sophisticated and nuanced

Yep, the gender woo is why I can't and won't vote for them. Same with Lib Dems. Our local greens guy round here is pretty good on local stuff, but I saw he sent a gushing tweet to that bloke once (the greens candidate with a bad wig who I believe stole his ex wife's maiden name and cried transphobia on bbc midlands), so now I won't vote for him either!

If someone told me that the oil companies had paid people to join the greens to discredit them I would be tempted to believe them

its such a weird stand to take whilst the world burns

It has been reported that they also want to reduce funding for Police and cancel all drug restrictions. (Class As for all?). I believe this was from the Platform at their conference.

In fairness the Green deputy leader objected to asylum seekers being housed in an army camp. Not the same as refusal to have them in her constituency.

I voted Green for years but no, it's very unlikely I ever will again.

I know a prospective candidate and the trans policies are the most important to her by a long way. Forget the environment, she'd rather the world burned than concede that TWANW.

Yes the support for drugs and surgery to 'cure' healthy people seems totally out of kilter with their other policies. The Greens and Big Pharma make an odd couple. Then the refusal to debate or even hear other views makes them seem a bit fanatical and intolerant.

It might be a pity but I'm guessing a lot of the support they're seeing in Polanski's honeymoon period will just drift back to Labour , which is edging away from gender ideology albeit slowly.

I truly don't understand anyone who votes green. It has always been a wasted vote. The only reason i can see to vote green, is to have a spoiled vote counted. I.e x number of people voted green, as a protest against the main parties. At least the vote is counted.

The green policies are generally ludicrously simplistic. It's the sort of stuff you see little kids saying on these TV programs. The greens are no different than the Monster Raving Looney party, with the notable exception that the MRL party, know they are being ridiculous.

The chances of any Green MP campaigning for solar farms or wind turbines in their constituency seem quite slim.

I think that's a mature perspective, to kind of hold your nose and vote based on the majority of their policies - however I don't share your optimism that iit will blow over. The Greens courted young trans voters so hard for years, especially in Scotland, and the leadership seem so stubborn - I can't seem them climbing down from promoting self ID/TWAW. I'm a longtime Green and SNP voter who has regretfully switched to Labour. I know it's only policy of many and I don't like being a single issue voter - but I would feel like a turkey voting for Christmas. I think yours is a more balanced attitude though!

Barely talk about the environment these days. Demonstrate no understanding of how government works. Or many areas of science. Elected hypnotits as a leader. Anti women.

No thanks.

I'd love to have a proper left-wing environmental party to vote for, but the Greens are not it. I'm not sure they ever were, but they used to be close enough that I could overlook the madder stuff and vote to boost their environmental message and campaigning. Not any more.