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Anyone wanting to support greens but really stuck on their trans beliefs and policies?

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ForCraftyWriter · 11/11/2025 09:09

I haven’t heard anything else that I disagree with, but I’m so disappointed by the outright ‘trans women are women statement’ and consequent policies. In my view this attitude doesn’t fit with the other green policies. Here we are saying that women are an unimportant subspecies, and that the wants of a very small number of trans identifying males trump the rights and needs of all the actual females.

How is anyone squaring this in their minds? Can you bring yourself to vote Green?

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ohfook · 11/11/2025 19:47

Me too.

Liverpool52 · 11/11/2025 19:45

The worst part of all of this is them refusing to even listen to GC views (see Bristol council recently - walking out if some asked a question that related to a GC view). As politicians it's literally their job to debate issues and put forward their own views in a respectful manner. If they can't do that they need to stand down.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/11/2025 19:22

Kendodd · 11/11/2025 18:56

Maybe the thing to do is actually join the party, get involved, and be vocal about TWANW. Then let the book you out if they really want to.

They've been very clear they don't want GC votes so I shall grant them their wish

in all seriousness the moment any one tries to venture GC opinions within the Green Party, they're suspended and subject to their Byzantine internal investigative process which seems designed to keep people in limbo fir as long as possible

Talkinpeace · 11/11/2025 19:17

Kendodd · 11/11/2025 18:56

Maybe the thing to do is actually join the party, get involved, and be vocal about TWANW. Then let the book you out if they really want to.

They expel women who do not kowtow

HelenaWaiting · 11/11/2025 19:03

ForCraftyWriter · 11/11/2025 09:09

I haven’t heard anything else that I disagree with, but I’m so disappointed by the outright ‘trans women are women statement’ and consequent policies. In my view this attitude doesn’t fit with the other green policies. Here we are saying that women are an unimportant subspecies, and that the wants of a very small number of trans identifying males trump the rights and needs of all the actual females.

How is anyone squaring this in their minds? Can you bring yourself to vote Green?

No. I'd sooner vote for a cuckoo clock.

Kendodd · 11/11/2025 18:56

Maybe the thing to do is actually join the party, get involved, and be vocal about TWANW. Then let the book you out if they really want to.

thirdfiddle · 11/11/2025 18:54

Was a member for a while, I ended up leaving and telling them why.

MarvellousMonsters · 11/11/2025 18:54

The greens are lovely, ideologically, but have some deeply impractical policies the worst of which is their TWAW bollocks. That said, it’s impossible to find any party (other than Reform) that is GC. I wish the greens were a viable option but they just aren’t.

StewkeyBlue · 11/11/2025 18:49

Nope: I don’t feel safe with a government that prioritises gender feelings over science.

And I won’t vote for a man who thinks I am a bigot for wanting sex definition to prevail in any context where women are disadvantaged (sport) or put at risk (prisons, intimate situations etc)

And I do not agree with their turnaround on nuclear power. They supported it for years. Their MPs voted for it.

They just don’t act like grown ups

DrMorbius · 11/11/2025 18:36

ForCraftyWriter · 11/11/2025 16:41

The interesting thing is the 40 or whatever constituencies (not mine unfortunately) where they apparently came second. Good on them if they can target them and claim away from reform or
conservative, very unfortunate if it dilutes the labour vote and allows reform into number 10

@ForCraftyWriter that is because the Greens used to be a home for left wing idealists. With a manifesto of well intentioned environmental based policies. Now they have been colonised by the modern left wing ideologues. With their usual mindless idealogy- TWAW, legalise all drugs, open borders, ban landlords, etc etc. But Zak the grafter knows these policies resonate with a large portion (40 constituencies you say) of millennials, Gen Z people and the alphabet people.

patooties · 11/11/2025 18:36

Zac Polanski is fucking awful. How can you even be contemplating it?

RoamingToaster · 11/11/2025 18:35

When asked why they don’t talk about or campaign on green issues they say they don’t need to as they’re the most trusted on that issue.

I used to be a member in my 20s, even went to a conference in Edinburgh. It’s not just the gender woo that puts me off them. Since they don’t expect to get into power they can have all kinds of zany policies.
I think I’ve moved more to the centre so I don’t like the policies on basically open borders and not caring about economic growth.

IdaGlossop · 11/11/2025 18:33

Not a chance. I have voted Green in local elections but wasn't impressed by the two canvassers who were unable to respond to my disquiet that the local party suspended an excellent parliamentary candidate for months because she dared to say sex was biological. Zac Polansky is a fantastic communicator, though.

BundleBoogie · 11/11/2025 18:31

CapacityBrown · 11/11/2025 17:01

The Green party are coming second in a lot of constituencies because they are deliberately targeting the Islamic vote, they are positioning themselves as the Gaza Party and taking a lot of votes off of Labour.

Bizarrely they don’t realise that they are exactly the type of lefties that helped the Islamists take over Iran for example and were executed in their tens of thousands when the Islamists took power. Their politics and practices are antithetical to Islam and they are just useful idiots.

PeonyPatch · 11/11/2025 18:31

I was going to vote Greens but I simply cannot on the basis of their trans stance! It absolutely does not put women first whatsoever and we are seen as a subspecies. It really makes me very angry how our rights have been quashed

BundleBoogie · 11/11/2025 18:28

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 11/11/2025 17:28

I am GC and I vote green because in my book climate change is a bigger threat to.women globally than trans issues. Yes I wish they would focus less on identity politics but I hope the more mainstream voters choose them the less influence that fringe has. Plus the Green MPs currently in the House of Commons don't seem too bonkers.

Don’t you think the Green Party should prioritise green issues though?

Their obsession with identity politics which is putting off everyone in this thread (except you). It’s cost them vast amounts of money so far, they have booted out good people and prioritise the unhinged zealots and countless people will no longer vote for them. They are damaging their own cause.

It’s the Green Party that is causing the problem with their unhinged anti women policies and bullying, not the voters they have lost.

BundleBoogie · 11/11/2025 18:23

GingerBeverage · 11/11/2025 09:38

Voted green in the past but they switched to wanting open borders and I can’t agree. So it’s not just one policy that’s a problem.

https://migration.greenparty.org.uk/migration-policy/

The Green Party in government will:

  1. Implement a fair and humane system of managed immigration
  2. Treat all migrants as if they are citizens
  3. Give all residents the right to vote
  4. Help families to be together
  5. Dismantle the Home Office
  6. Abolish the No Recourse to Public Funds condition
  7. Abolish the ten year route to settlement
  8. Stop the profiteering from application fees
  9. Stop putting people in prison because of their immigration status
  10. Accept our responsibility for the climate emergency and support the people forced to move

And I thought supporting the Challenors and bullying out all GC voices was bad enough.

For anyone not aware, ‘Aimee’ Challenor was an up and coming Green ‘star’, much feted a and employed as an ‘advisor’ even though he employed his dad as a campaign manager while he was facing a charge of kidnapping an 11 yr old girl, holding her hostage in his disgusting loft and raping her repeatedly. ‘Aimee’ has a partner who writes paedophile fiction.

We need a Green Party, this group of unhinged activists is not it.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 11/11/2025 17:55

Yup, I’d vote for a more scientifically accurate green party

Talkinpeace · 11/11/2025 17:54

Sian Berry scolded us for going to Brighton and said that attending Filia provoked the men into smashing the windows.

Polanski did not call her out.

I will NEVER vote Green in their current incarnation

EarthlyNightshade · 11/11/2025 17:54

JamieCannister · 11/11/2025 16:24

"Anyone wanting to support greens but really stuck on their trans beliefs and policies?"

No, not at all. That's like saying "I really want the Yorkshire Ripper to be my next husband, but I'm stuck on the mass murderer thing".

Having medical malpractice in service of an incoherent homophobic and misogynistic cult that's a massive threat to child safeguarding as a key policy renders ever single other thing you say to be of no value.

This made me laugh but I am in agreement.

I might vote Green if in three years their views on women are not their main policy and if laws around this generally protect women from these ideas. I think the tide is turning.
As someone said above, I'd like to be able to vote for an ethical party that cared about climate change and the environment, what a shame that party doesn't exist.

ArabellaSaurus · 11/11/2025 17:54

On the question of Green Parties elsewhere - Australia is having an interesting moment.

'Greens co-founder Drew Hutton could have his life membership of the party’s Queensland branch reinstated in what he says is a “hollow” victory, following debate over his comments on “transgender ideology”.

The Queensland Greens have flagged that a vote on his possible return would be held next week, after they received advice from lawyers that the party had denied him natural justice when revoking his membership.

Hutton co-founded the state party and the national Australian Greens in the early 1990s. He was expelled from the party in June, with the Greens considering his pursuit of debate harmful to trans people, citing comments made by others which appeared under some of his social media posts.

Arguing the matter was an issue of free speech, Hutton challenged the decision in court in September.
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He said he had won a “hollow” victory, and would continue to pursue the court case even as a member if his demands weren’t met.

“It’s taken me three years to get the Greens to see sense on this,” he said.

But he said it wasn’t certain that he would be reappointed.

“There’s a lot of this transgender ideology which permeates the Queensland Greens, and it all depends how ideologically fixated they are on their determination to get rid of anybody who says otherwise,” he said.'

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/11/drew-hutton-greens-party-expulsion-could-be-overturned

ArabellaSaurus · 11/11/2025 17:50

FuckRealityBringMeABook · 11/11/2025 17:28

I am GC and I vote green because in my book climate change is a bigger threat to.women globally than trans issues. Yes I wish they would focus less on identity politics but I hope the more mainstream voters choose them the less influence that fringe has. Plus the Green MPs currently in the House of Commons don't seem too bonkers.

What Green policies are the Greens, under Polanski, actively pursuing?

Zack Polanski is very firmly part of that 'fringe'.

FictionalCharacter · 11/11/2025 17:41

ditalini · 11/11/2025 10:45

I voted Green for years but no, it's very unlikely I ever will again.

I know a prospective candidate and the trans policies are the most important to her by a long way. Forget the environment, she'd rather the world burned than concede that TWANW.

This for me is the worst part of it. They’re not focused primarily on the environment whilst having a TWAW viewpoint as a side issue. They have made gender ideology absolutely central. They talk about it constantly and passionately. So not only are they no longer a “green” party, they are zealots, and I believe that even when genderwoo has generally died down in society, they will still be at it.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 11/11/2025 17:40

I can’t vote green again until they regain some sense and that doesn’t just apply to gender nonsense. The Green Party in Scotland are utter fruitloops and should be nowhere near influencing laws.

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