Anyone wanting to support greens but really stuck on their trans beliefs and policies?

They have a spectacular level of arrogance and tone deafness where they think they can magically achieve something that no one else in the entire history of the world has purely on the basic that they are culturally superior because they are 'modern progressives'. This is the same mentality that the British Imperialists had and it's not lost on me - they belong to the same social bubble but a century on.

This really made me laugh They honestly do act like children playing make believe In their fantasy we're living in the Platonic Realm of Forms, rather than on this mucky little orb called earth!

I would never vote for these party of cranks and it bothers me that their most hare-brained and offensive policies are described as left-wing.

Cos life is just that easy. Why hasn't anyone thought about it before in any era of humanity?

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Zack being interviewed by Evan Davies. Apparently his appointment as leader has energised Green Party membership with his easy solutions of less growth but more for everyone except the very wealthy.

I have a certain morbid curiosity as to how they would change the wording of the equality act

Wording? Words are a product of a binary colonial culture and are used to oppress. Words only have limited, fixed meanings and each word excludes millions of other meanings.

No, the Greens would use emoji.

I have a certain morbid curiosity as to how they would change the wording of the equality act.
You can't discriminate against someone on the basis of gender identity? They'd have to define gender identity. Properly, with words that can be examined in a court, which means not circular.

"No sir, I can't have discriminated on gender, I have no idea what it fucking means and I never even asked the complainant how they identify."

How do you know that's what they want to do? I didn't think any party had an up-to-date manifesto out

Even if the gender woo wasn’t there….

open borders

leaving NATO

are red lines for anyone with half a brain. Progressive taxes, nationalising public services - love all that. But not enough to lose the country.

also other parties want those things…

Count Binface ironically gets the issues...

Yes, I agree. And frequently Count Binface, when elected, has turned out to be good as a councillor.

They don't have any rational answers.

Fund everything by taxing the people who find it easiest to just move elsewhere.

End war by telling Vladimir Putin to be nice.

Green energy, but not in my back yard.

Honestly, it makes more sense to vote for Count Binface.

I know MN is quite pro drug use, but I also can’t get behind Zach’s gung-ho Legalise All Drugs policy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20e20rzje2o.amp

I just want an eco party that focuses on the environment and sustainability.

No. Their gender woo is enough to put any rational person off. If they can believe that guff then nothing they put forward as a belief is trustworthy.

I have voted Green Party twice before - but open borders & trans policies have put me off voting for them again. The fact that Rachel Millward has written a letter saying that housing refugees in her constituency is unsafe is hypocritical.

She wants immigrants processed quicker - surely that will just mean more will keep coming? I think she wants immigrants to be welcome so long as it’s not near her.

The Green Party are more like a Ghost Train ride - as you clutch onto your companion in horror, the carriage rocks from side to side, while poorly costumed ghosts jump out to wail 'TWAWooooh!' and 'women can have peeeennnnissses!'. You get to the end, sigh a sigh of relief that it's all over but then it starts again, more manic and at double the speed.

I think I’ve used the bus analogy before. A political party isn’t like a taxi that takes you straight to your door. It’s like a bus-so you get on the one that goes the closest to where you want to go.

The trouble is so were 'Brexit economics' and plenty of idiots voted for that.

Polanski’s economic ideas were described as la la land politics by a Bank of England economist on BBC this morning.

Maybe, but my point is that it would be pragmatically a nightmare to implement.

Given the Islamic influence within the greens, I am not sure the relegation of women would be a concern to them.

Hard agree. They are the least serious political party ever.

Don't be overly concerned about any of that. In reality, and in practice, changing the equality act so that sex, as a protected category, is removed would have too many unthought through consequences, and would take up so much time and be subject to so much scrutiny. it would cripple any government that attempted to do it.

The rest of the policy list is also ridiculous and unrealistic ideological posturing.

Even if they kill the Equality Act, they still potentially have a problem with the Human Rights Act. And Health and Safety act.

Now they would be a junior member in any coalition. There still would be a lot of Labour MPs who would be very nervous of changing the Equality Act.

Any changes to law would still need to get a majority in parliament. This is where I see issues - the Greens would have to make it a precondition of a coalition and Labour would have to 3 line whip to ensure it passed. That's not without considerable risk imo. If we are talking about a coalition government we are already talking about a government which doesn't have a big majority. That means the potential for a small rebellion on this subject aren't small. That could get interesting.

The idea that it would be really easy to do if the Green won election, just isn't reflective of how finely balanced politics are.

Reform would actually be delighted if the Greens did force this issue as it would be a full car crash.