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Trans Liberation Group

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BlueLegume · 11/11/2025 06:25

The MP Zarah Sultana of Your Party has posed with a new group called The Trans Liberation Group. All fine if she truly believes men can be women. The group are active on X with a small following. They have a website. https://transliberationgroup.org.uk

They are also targeting students at universities to join Your Party. Again all fine if politics is the motive. Call me a cynic but I think students are very vulnerable and easily sucked into politics that look different. It feels like these Trans Liberation Group are trying to be less TRA and more mainstream. Either way they may suck in vulnerable groups.

I also find ZS somewhat disingenuous. She raves about Palestine but rails against Israel. She does know that Palestine and Hamas would not support her stance on Trans people surely?

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Howseitgoin · 11/11/2025 07:40

TeenToTwenties · 11/11/2025 07:25

I don't think you have to agree with everything someone else thinks in order to agree with them on some points. So if a group wants to call for Palestinian Rights alongside Trans Rights then that is up to them. (Though it runs the risk of derailment of main issue by side tracking on the secondary one.)

However given that in the UK trans people are protected from discrimination based on their trans status (sorry more accurately gender reassignment) and are allowed to marry and if anything are over represented in the media, I do wonder what rights they think they don't have that other people of the same sex do have. Because despite asking regularly I still haven't seen it explained.

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" I do wonder what rights they think they don't have that other people of the same sex do have. Because despite asking regularly I still haven't seen it explained."

Being of the same sex doesn't mean the levels of discrimination are the same despite legal protections. Wealthier, straight & white men/women are less likely to be discriminated against than poorer, queer men & women of colour.

nauticant · 11/11/2025 07:38

Howseitgoin · 11/11/2025 07:10

Wow, no homophobia in the West? This is news. 🤪

You're trying too hard.

Dial it down and you might convince some people you're arguing sincerely.

Namelessnelly · 11/11/2025 07:31

TeenToTwenties · 11/11/2025 07:25

I don't think you have to agree with everything someone else thinks in order to agree with them on some points. So if a group wants to call for Palestinian Rights alongside Trans Rights then that is up to them. (Though it runs the risk of derailment of main issue by side tracking on the secondary one.)

However given that in the UK trans people are protected from discrimination based on their trans status (sorry more accurately gender reassignment) and are allowed to marry and if anything are over represented in the media, I do wonder what rights they think they don't have that other people of the same sex do have. Because despite asking regularly I still haven't seen it explained.

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I haven’t either. They have every right everyone else does. It seems they want extra rights as well, no matter who this impacts.

TeenToTwenties · 11/11/2025 07:25

I don't think you have to agree with everything someone else thinks in order to agree with them on some points. So if a group wants to call for Palestinian Rights alongside Trans Rights then that is up to them. (Though it runs the risk of derailment of main issue by side tracking on the secondary one.)

However given that in the UK trans people are protected from discrimination based on their trans status (sorry more accurately gender reassignment) and are allowed to marry and if anything are over represented in the media, I do wonder what rights they think they don't have that other people of the same sex do have. Because despite asking regularly I still haven't seen it explained.

Namelessnelly · 11/11/2025 07:16

BlueLegume · 11/11/2025 06:27

To add they quote they say they are under ‘unprecedented threat in the UK’. From what? If anything they have more protection than the average man or woman as most employers are wary of upsetting or saying no to them.

Threat of being told no apparently. It’s the only thing they have to worry about.

Howseitgoin · 11/11/2025 07:10

Namelessnelly · 11/11/2025 07:03

Yeah. It’s like when you see Queers for Palestine m. You know damn well Hamas world kill them in a heartbeat if they went over there. Funny how this trans liberation group isn’t campaigning to put females with a trans identity in male prisons isn’t it. It’s all about the men.

Wow, no homophobia in the West? This is news. 🤪

Namelessnelly · 11/11/2025 07:03

Yeah. It’s like when you see Queers for Palestine m. You know damn well Hamas world kill them in a heartbeat if they went over there. Funny how this trans liberation group isn’t campaigning to put females with a trans identity in male prisons isn’t it. It’s all about the men.

Howseitgoin · 11/11/2025 06:49

"I also find ZS somewhat disingenuous. She raves about Palestine but rails against Israel. She does know that Palestine and Hamas would not support her stance on Trans people surely?"

Are you suggesting that those that don't support human rights universally aren't entitled to support for theirs? Like Gender Criticals?

BlueLegume · 11/11/2025 06:27

To add they quote they say they are under ‘unprecedented threat in the UK’. From what? If anything they have more protection than the average man or woman as most employers are wary of upsetting or saying no to them.

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