Criticism of Islam is a protected belief

As opposed to the UK where you could have been born into a Muslim family and made to wear the Burkha?

I am also not in the US. If I was, I would be infinitely more likely to be born into an ultra religious Christian family and not even been allowed to wear jeans.

Surely, the attempt to remove Christian influence over the dating systems (though still keeping it but simply changing the name to pretend it isn’t relevant) is relevant to this thread?

Lucky you’re here typing on mn rather than Afghanistan where you’d face a whole range of censure, including no voice on or offline.

Yet.

Afghanistan VS US is pretty equally no for me for very similar reasons.

You may want to check those "facts". Also it's generally considered more accurate to use BCE than BC. For all sorts of reasons unsuited to this thread.

Is it entirely comparable to you?

I can easily decide between Afghanistan and other western countries as a place to raise dd /dc. How about you?

Because it is the West and Christian and more likely to influence our societal attitudes than what happens in DownTown Kabul.

One that go to church and would disown their heterosexual kid for sex outside marriage, let alone a child who wants to have homosexual relationships.

I have something to say about all of these countries. Not just the Muslim ones.

Which Christians do you know?

Do you have anything to say about practises in Afghanistan or similar?

And yet the abortion laws have just been relaxed. We are in the UK talking about UK laws and the protection of UK citizens to criticise religion. Why the need to drag America into the discussion? We are not America.

It's always been legal up to full term depending on circumstances.

What I do know is that at two political parties want to restrict abortion. I know there was a huge anti abortion March in London a few months ago, and it is an annual event.

You realise there is a law now going through parliament making it legal up to full term?

@Swiftasthewind

around 600 BC: 1st tribal king in the British Isles to be baptised
around 610 BC: Muhammad is supposed to have received his first revelation

Facts...

You realise our own politicians have been talking about restricting abortion for a whike now, yes?

You realise America is the West, right? The place where little raped girls now have to continue their pregnancies? That place? Familiar?

Can we have dates and timeline please?
If you are so educated, you won't mind sharing, will you?

The problems is that as religions Christianity and Islam are not comparable.

Christianity - based on the Bible itself - contains the philosophical basis for separating the spiritual and the mundane. (It's the very meaning of "Give unto Caesar ...." that Jesus instructed). Therefore it is possible to be a Christian in a secular society. Admittedly you have to cede your power over women people, but it can be done and lead to what you might loosely call "the West".

Islam has no such provisions. It is specifically presented as a guide to all aspects of life. There is no such division between the sacred and the profane. Ultimately it requires full control of every Muslims life.

Now as with Christianity there are a spectrum of views on this. However unlike Christianity they cannot be reconciled with a secular state.

More perceptive readers will of course notice that the alleged rising tide of Christian batshittery fundamentalism from the US makes suspiciously similar claims to Islam about there being no separation between church and state.

Personally, as someone who has very little time for people who believe in fairy stories, no matter how amusing or twee, I say a plague on all your houses.

It is proof of your commitment to the religion rather than an association by background. The fact that hardly any of the people polled actually worship in a church is important when analysing the data.

People who have actually read the bible and believe in it are typically against homosexuality and think it is a sin. That goes without saying.

Churchgoing is not required as proof of faith in Christ in most protestant religions.

When the Christians you poll haven't even seen a church for years, your data means nothing.

Yes and no I don't read those papers or sources routinely. I'm asking because I regualrly see anyone who does do that punished for doing so. Of course if someone doesnt have a job to take away, then they can just say it.