Tim Davies Resigns - Can Gender Critical Movement take some credit?

Here @WarriorN
https://www.thetimes.com/article/44807c1a-a018-4e7b-bb69-11b89709c453?shareToken=ab0e4d71fcffcf834bc3f3e8562b3111

She’s written a piece for the times -does anyone have access?

https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1987620261428888001?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

C’mon Sonia!
She’s not letting it go

whereas, according to the SEENin journalism time line, the bbc actively met with activists and actively planned programs that we know ACTIVELY harmed children

imho this is beyond reproach and there must be a public inquiry into that

The BBC isn't state funded (although part comes from licence payers)

A licence fee is a tax on owning a television set. Non-payment remains a criminal offence.

Kemi Badenoch has tweeted about the resignations:
https://nitter.net/KemiBadenoch/status/1987601695057367165#m
And the BBC has reported and quoted from her post:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vn25d5dq7o
But they missed out one significant sentence:
"And on basic matters of biology, the corporation can no longer allow its output to be shaped by a cabal of ideological activists."
It seems to be the one aspect of the Prescott report they'd really rather no-one mentioned.

The BBC isn't state funded (although part comes from licence payers) And in fact lost one of it sources of funding when the Foreign Office ceased to fully fund the World Service, even though required to still keep it on air and so eating into the Licence Fee money.

So we are now paying for what the UK Government used to pay for as part of maintaining the UK's profile in other countries.(What is interesting is how much better the news is on the World Service)

And to echo what a PP said the problem is now the BBC for the UK is now dumbed down to US levels, as it chases ratings and has to compete for commercial money eg tv series etc are now often co-produced.

And also to cut cost many news and documentary programmes are made by outside companies who quite often have no particular standards.

I am amazed that in 2025 anybody thinks it is a public service.

Although the clever Tory double dealing over the World Service is typical of them, the resulting situation is a bit like Blair with his PFI initiatives.

Everyone is talking as though we are back in the 1930 when the BBC (radio only) was to educate the public and keep it entertained with approved shows.

Making accusations against the BBC based on concepts about that aren't real just doesn't help.

Its been a fudge for years and different Governments have contributed to it. Like the NHS we are all supposed to admire it and think it never goes wrong but aren't prepared to fund it to do so.

The only truth is that it journalistic standards are not trusted as they used to be. And what is so funny is that in the days when it was "trusted" were the days when in fact it was presuming to tell us what was important and how we should think about things and everyone just accepted that Auntie knew best.

This was only really first challenged in the 60s & 70s.

Maybe to get the audience and licence payers to realise todays reality we should be looking at the example of the PBS in the US.

But might find there would be no Strictly. Then you really will hear licence fees payers moaning.

Yes he just replied to me when I asked 'would you have edited it like that?' that he wouldn't but it was a minor error. I mean the fact Trump could quite happily sue the BBC for eleventy billion dollars doesn't seem very minor to me, but each to their own Lewis.

Newsagent Lewis Goodall was on HIGNFY minimising the Panorama scandal, and has continued to do so on X after the resignations:
"It’s minor embarrassment that was almost certainly a witless mistake."
https://nitter.net/lewis_goodall/status/1987668775177535611#m

Tim Davie is delusional.

Well, in his letter Davies said he was pleased with the improvement in BBC culture. I suspect this was a friendly message to the trans activists in the BBC.

The BBC needs to be politically and generally impartial in its news reporting and journalism because it is a broadcaster and all broadcasters are required to provide impartiality and balance in the UK, OFCOM regulates them all to this standard (the BBC used to have its own regulator but now comes under OFCOM).

If broadcasters don't comply they can be and are sanctioned by OFCOM. Some, like GB News and Al Jazeera use studio debates to claim to be facilitating 'opinion' rather than reporting but GB news is now getting OFCOM sanctions for non-compliance.

UK newspapers are not regulated in the same way and don't come under OFCOM. They can and do take a general political stance as publications, although if their reporting isn't factually accurate, they can be sued. They usually distinguish between reporting, analysis and opinion.

The BBC is the State-funded national broadcaster. Other outlets are not. That's the difference.

Panorama has a long history of dodgy standards of journalism.

The fact the BBC still has it on air and has never properly addressed this ongoing issue, in itself smacks of the BBC's inability to deal with known problems and to change when it is pulled up on poor standards.

https://x.com/jonsopel/status/1987114148539371536

Do we know when the report will be presented to the Culture, Media and Sport Committee, now that it is not happening on Wednesday? The Panorama edit is going to dominate the news for the next couple of days. Hopefully when the report is presented the media will focus on the other issues it raised.

This is all part of a curve since 2016. I've spoken about it a lot on MN.

It amazes me how few journalists remotely get it.

I cancelled my Gaurdian subscription years ago and am now very pleased with my subscriptions to The Telegraph and The Scottish Herald.

Could the problem be one of cutting corners when checking compliance of an indie's work before broadcast?
The BBC are supposed to spread the license fee around amongst independents but perhaps high profile news reporting is better kept in house?

This DOES NOT cover what happened to Martine Croxall though. Thats NOT in line with guidelines. This is pure activist bullshit language which she was punished for not sticking to.

Thats the issue.

The fact its happened the same week as the Martine Croxall decision by the BBC says this ISN'T just about Trump as much as people will try and deny / pretend differently.

The MAJORITY of the public think the concept of 'pregnant people' rather than people women is bollocks when it comes to it. Some will tolerate it but they think its not needed.

This is what isn't being grasped. Its being out of step with the public AND blamed on guidelines EVEN WHEN ITS NOT EVEN COVERED BY GUIDELINES.

The thing with the media is for it to be revelant and to be useful it ultimately has to serve the interests of its consumers.The second it fails to do this, it becomes power that works againt the public. And thats where you get public backlashes which is what we are seeing in progress.

I got taught this by a lecturer who did modules for BBC news staff on the same stuff. He's been turning in his grave for several years. Clearly Tim Davie didn't do the course.

Lisa Nandy said that??? I will believe it when I see it, would you happen to have a link, please?

I think much of the problem with BBC News is their obvious decision to sideline UK viewers and to downgrade the World Service in order to chase after the American market. Most of the time it feels like you are watching a US news channel. A big story will be breaking in the UK, you switch on the BBC News and they will be having a Zoom call panel discussion about some batshit comment some controversial congressman from Wisconsin has made. As with the Guardian, when you chase after the American coastal audience there is a tendency to pander to their 'progressive ' concerns.

I also think the slow death of local newspapers and radio stations is a problem. The BBC needs more of the kind of journalists who started as a cub reporter on the Tewkesbury Tribune and fewer of the opinion piece activist ones they seem to be recruiting now.