They scraped Mumsnet again.

Where do we send our subs?

It's pooh pooh.

(Edited to say: But that's just my ugly and dangerous pedantry speaking)

"recruit new GC members"

😂

My favourite bit was the "coming out" 'parties'/red pilling. 😂
I always suspected those threads were 'planted' by researchers not users looking to recruit new GC members because they just didn't seem authentic to me but maybe its both. I stopped reporting hateful comments to the mods as soon as I noticed the site was potentially being used for research tho.

While I get its important to identify communities & processes that are gateways to the far right & there were useful insights in this research my only beef was with the self inflicted isolation from family & friends critique which I think applies broadly. Most self respecting people can't in all good conscience stay in a close relationship with people who don't believe in equality in rights however misguided about what qualifies as equality they are.

I know that a lot of people will poo poo the research as deaf to the veracity of their grievances with trans people but so does the far right when it comes to immigration. The difference is the demonisation & dehumanisation of people points to something much uglier & dangerous.

This too.

....and responding when a woman asks for a woman doctor.....

True!

So what are you saying @Christinapple ? If women hadn't been talking among themselves their comments wouldn't have been scraped?

Absolutely this last point. Be as trans as you like but keep off women’s sports, changing rooms and toilets, awards and minors.

You're just saying that because you've got two extra limbs!

To be fair, it’s clear that despite all efforts to silence us, they haven’t entirely managed, to the point where even polls are showing that we are winning the debate they refuse to engage in.

Oh and lads, when even Mumsnet’s resident men’s rights activists are cross with you, it might be time to hang up your crusty socks and get some fresh air.

How very transphobic of you.
Do your little pals know that you think trans people are bad?

Well if you want to say people can't change sex then that takes up just 4 words. We don't need 6 (or however many years it's been a hot topic) years scraping worth of 24/7 forum posts on trans people and what they eat for breakfast.

No amount of scraping can change biological facts.

I also agree AI scrapers should leave Mumsnet alone. AI, IMHO, is junk enough as is without training it on half a trillion words on how bad trans people apparently are.

Having waded through the "paper", I conclude that the authors take issue with women talking to each other and want to figure out how we do so in order to figure out how to stop us.

In other words, Rules 3, 4, and 14 dressed up in way too much word salad.

Antipathy Towards Sex-Workers

No, it's the men who pay to rape women that we have antipathy towards.

As we discuss in this section, in-group stories of peaking and subsequently “coming out” as GC, further reify fantasies that mainstream culture is silencing, canceling, or confusing vulnerable GC users

The evidence of multiple tribunal cases, starting with Forstater v CGD, prove that we are silenced. It's not a fantasy if it's actually happening.

BATS uses a double-blind peer review process. This means that the reviewers of a submission will at no point in the review process be made aware of who authored the submission

Yeah but you can tell though, can't you.

I know I'm not an academic but if you want to know what MN Feminism posters are actually saying, there's a really good, robust, reliable way of finding out.

Fucking shut up and listen to us.

Bit out-there, I realise.

Shows how much they know about it, doesn't it?

Is that a swanky way of saying that his brain's fallen out?

Not surprised.